Yes , I understand your point ... But I am referring to all types of violence ... Killing people for no reason is just outrages . And it is the same when you want to kill the witness so you may get away with your crime(s) I know that there are different types of violence.Mostly against women from all cultures and /or backgrounds. Maybe it has grown in a sort of tradition (or it is part of their religion) but does that make it right ... ??? I also feel sorry for all the Vietnamese victims who died in the trailer in England. But at least they had a choice - to get in or not ... These young women never had the chance to choose ...