Eric... I respectfully disagree across the board.

Trust is something that is gained, piece by piece, second by second, minute by minute, day by day, question by question, deed by deed...it takes time and consistency in character to build trust and when somebody lies they can break that delicate trust. Now is trust going to be built off a 1 hr quiz, NO, but can it be broken by somebody whose own words cannot be trusted, absolutely. So please stop with the he should never ask any question nonsense because questions are how we get to know people, questions are how we get answers to things we need to know. There is nothing wrong with asking a question. If a question is inappropriate then you can choose not to answer it,  I don't believe this question was inappropriate but if it was, do not answer it but when you lie you lower yourself.

Now to the reason why I said your post was an example of the problem with men today... it may make you look like a blunt person instead of a guy who wants to be a future husband...that right there says it all. There used to be a time when a man wasn't afraid of being a man. Oh my god, the poor girl, what if I ask a question she doesn't like, she may not want to be with me. What kind of weak fear based response is that??? a man does not live in fear... I know who I am as a person, I know I never mean to hurt anybody intentionally, I will never ask offensive questions, I will not cross any disrespectful lines in my eyes, so if I ask something it is because I wish to know the answer. If she has a problem with my question, I will respect her for telling me she has a problem with the question. I will not respect her for lying and if she wants to leave me for asking a question then I am glad to see her leave because she is not the right girl for me. If she can be broken by a question, she is too frail to handle lifes ups and downs and I do not need that in my life, nobody does. You need to start giving women some credit for being strong, they are stronger than us and they can handle a question. Stop coddling them, stop being afraid of your own shadow. Remember what it is to be man, own it. Women may not want a neanderthal man these days, but rest assured they still want a man, they'll get a dog if they want to be followed around. That is no disrespect to dogs, I love dogs  . I also believe a woman who sees me asking her serious questions will understand that I am a serious potential suitor as I am taking the time to truly get to know her. She will not be taking it nearly as harshly as you seem to be taking it. 

I don't dislike you Eric, I disliked some of the things you had to say and I explained why but I don't think those things define you and I think there is probably a lot of things we would get along over, just in this instance we clash. I think your post at points embodied some of the traits I see men gravitating towards these day and I dislike the direction I see men going today. I think we as men are getting softer, lazier and more feminine and if a woman wants that, she is better off dating a woman, they are better at it than guys are. I also think loyalty amongst men is at an all time low. I disliked that aspect of your post as well. 

As for putting your facts in the right order, I am not disputing those facts...but you missed in the facts where she lied to him, where does that fit?

it does not matter that she had a life before him, I never saw John say I hate that she ever dated anybody else, I never saw John get irate about that...If you can find it show me I must have missed it...please show me. You took the narrative that many of the women wanted to take and that is unfortunate and spoke to the loyalty issue I brought up. I understand why they stuck together I don't see why you are taking their narrative.

all I see him saying is I asked if she met anybody before me in person, she said no, I found out she lied....how does that make him the bad guy. It doesn't matter if he stayed 1 day or 900 days, I don't know why you raise that point at all? the point is they met, they have talked marriage, they were committed, that much he confirmed... he asked the question at some point, she chose to lie about it. You don't get to lie because its 1 day, or because its 900 days, the time frame is irrelevant, again it boils down to character...people will tell you everything you need to know about them if you just let them show you. I don't know why people want to paint John as the bad guy, how dare he ask the question that made her lie, the bastard lol...thats like it being my fault that you robbed a store because I got a promotion ahead of you, its my fault because if you got the promotion you wouldn't have robbed the store...no...you had a choice, you chose wrong, I did not make you do anything. Lets use the more extreme example of rape, is it the womans fault she got raped because she dressed sexy at the club, NO...Stop blaming the victim here. She didn't have to lie, she chose to. That doesn't make John the bad guy, that doesn't make John insecure, that makes John the guy who got lied to.