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Ben

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...and you have counted them all, have you? πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚
You don't have any kids? Good! Keep it that way. Enough, if one life is as sorry and gloomy as that.

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Liudmila, 54 y.o.

Germany

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НС ΠΏΡ€ΠΎ ΠΊΠΎΡ€ΠΎΠ½Ρƒ, Π½ΠΎ Π½Π΅ смогла ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠΉΡ‚ΠΈ ΠΌΠΈΠΌΠΎ  .

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Yuliya

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ВСматичСский ΡƒΠΆΠΈΠ½.
Π‘ΡƒΠΏ с COVIDСльками.

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Yuliya

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РСшила ΡƒΡ‚Ρ€ΠΎΠΌ ΠΏΠΎΠΊΠ°Ρ‡Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ прСсс. Встала Π² 6.00, Π»Π΅Π³Π»Π° Π½Π° ΠΏΠΎΠ» ΠΈ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΡΠ½ΡƒΠ»Π°ΡΡŒ Π² 11.00

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Svetlana, 64 y.o.

Russia

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 Π₯Π°, Ρ…Π°, Ρ…Π°, Ρ€Π°ΡΡΠΌΠ΅ΡˆΠΈΠ»ΠΈ. БСйчас Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ Π½ΡƒΠΆΠ΅Π½ ΡŽΠΌΠΎΡ€, Π° Ρ‚ΠΎ ΡƒΠΆΠ΅ сидя Π½Π° ΠΊΠ°Ρ€Π°Π½Ρ‚ΠΈΠ½Π΅, просто Π·Π°Ρ‡Π°Ρ…Π»ΠΈ.

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Natalia, 54 y.o.

Belarus

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сСгодняшний дСнь.

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Tamara

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ЕвгСния, ΠΎΡ‡Π΅Π½ΡŒ Ρ…ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΡˆΠΎ ΠΈ ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²ΠΈΠ»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ написанно. Π’Π΅Π΄ΡŒ Π² Π΄Π΅ΠΉΡΡ‚Π²ΠΈΡ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎΡΡ‚ΠΈ ,Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ ΠΈ Π΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ.

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Mariya, 41 y.o.

Russia

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In the discussion on the Π˜Ρ‰Π΅Ρ‚ Π½Π΅ ΠΏΠ°Ρ€Ρ‚Π½Ρ‘Ρ€Π°, Π° "ΠΌΠ°ΠΌΡƒ" in the forum Ladies only . Number of comments: 110


Π£ мСня Π±Ρ‹Π» 67-Π»Π΅Ρ‚Π½ΠΈΠΉ Π·Π½Π°ΠΊΠΎΠΌΡ‹ΠΉ с Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΎΠΉ (!) Ρ„ΡƒΠ½ΠΊΡ†ΠΈΠ΅ΠΉ, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π΅ΠΌΡƒ ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΈΠ΅ сорокалСтниС ΠΏΠΎΠ·Π°Π²ΠΈΠ΄ΡƒΠ΅Ρ‚. ВсС ΠΎΡ‚Π½ΠΎΡΠΈΡ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ.


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Billy

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Settling down hasn't happened yet but the not so subtle hints about the type of ring she wants has begun lol Not to make her sound like she's in a rush or anything, she's put in her time, this isn't a new or online relationship...we were together 1.5 years before we broke up, we were pretty sure we found the right people just at the wrong time...the timing simply corrected itself while we were apart. Thank you Eric, I appreciate it.


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Svetlana

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The interesting jewerly or pursue from modern designers. One more: we have very interesting kitchen stuff here, in USA: from wooden, for example. I often see it in our stores. The book, DVD movie, textbooks to learn American English. TJmaxx, Sierra, HomeGoods, Macy's, maybe Ross. I named stores what I visit and where I am working. I give consultation about style and fashion.


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Svetlana

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Look for in reality, Stephan. I found some good friends in dating sites but husbands only in reality: classmate, neighbor, colleague


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Svetlana

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My native language is Polish. Nobody from my 4 husbands can't talk Polish. Igor talked Russian, Herbert, Jack and William only American English. Sometimes I translate some English words to Polish or Russian...only for interest. I adapt, not them. It is about languages. About dishes: we all have many similar dishes but name differently, for example: vareniki - pirogi - ravioli or tortellini; draniki - derynu - harsh brown. Many dishes what I cooked for my husbands were known for them from childhood...but other name


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Svetlana

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Are you kidding? I am living in USA, married. I am here only for conversation. I am not looking for anyone from more rich country than USA to be bigamist. But I found some good friends by this site. My husband knows about it. We read forum together including your posts. I can't understand what are you doing here? You don't respect women at all, neither from poor, no rich countries, neither potential girlfriend/ fiance/ wife, no usual friends.


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Svetlana

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1955 and 2015? Are you sure that all changed too much. We are watching some documental movies about 20 and 21 centuries including gender's relationship + our memories (,I mean me and my husband). And I need to admit that your picture isn't true and showed relationships more primitive that it is in reality

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Evgeniya, 67 y.o.

Russia

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Π”ΠΎΠ±Ρ€ΠΎΠΉ Π½ΠΎΡ‡ΠΈ всСм. А я ΡΡ‡ΠΈΡ‚Π°ΡŽ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΌΡ‹ всС Π‘Π›Π•ΠŸΠ«. ΠœΡ‹ всС здСсь Π² поискС. Но Π½Π΅ Π²ΠΈΠ΄ΠΈΠΌ дальшС собствСнных ΠΆΠ΅Π»Π°Π½ΠΈΠΉ. ΠœΡ‹ Π½Π΅ Π²ΠΈΠ΄ΠΈΠΌ Ρ‡Π΅Π»ΠΎΠ²Π΅ΠΊΠ°. ΠœΡ‹ ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ рассуТдаСм ΠΎ любви ΠΎ Π²Π΅Ρ€Π΅ ΠΈ Π½Π°Π΄Π΅ΠΆΠ΄Π΅
Но смотрим Ρ„ΠΎΡ‚ΠΎ- ΠΎΠΉ! ΠœΠΎΡ€Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Ρ‹ ΠΏΠΎΠ΄ Π³Π»Π°Π·Π°ΠΌΠΈ ,нос Π΄Π»ΠΈΠ½Π½Ρ‹ΠΉ ,ΠΎΡ‡ΠΊΠΈ ΠΈ Ρ‚. Π”..... И сразу Π²Ρ‹Ρ‡Π΅Ρ€ΠΊΠ½ΡƒΠ»ΠΈ Ρ‡Π΅Π»ΠΎΠ²Π΅ΠΊΠ° ΠΈΠ· своСго списка.. ΠœΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚Π΅ Π·Π°ΠΊΠΈΠ΄Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ мСня Ρ‚Π°ΠΏΠΊΠ°ΠΌΠΈ - Π½ΠΎ это Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ. ΠœΡ‹ слСпыС.( Π½Ρƒ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚ Π±Ρ‹Ρ‚ΡŒ Π½Π΅ всС- Π½ΠΎ ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΈΠ΅.) Π–Π΄Π΅ΠΌ,ΠΆΠ΄Π΅ΠΌ ΠΈΡ‰Π΅ΠΌ,ΠΈΡ‰Π΅ΠΌ- Π±Π°Ρ†! А Тизнь Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΈ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΡˆΠ»Π°. И Π²ΠΏΠ΅Ρ€Π΅Π΄ΠΈ бСзпросвСтный ΠΌΡ€Π°ΠΊ ΠΈ одинокая ΡΡ‚Π°Ρ€ΠΎΡΡ‚ΡŒ. А ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚ ΡΡƒΠ΄ΡŒΠ±Π° Ρ‚ΠΎ сидСла рядом ,Π° Π·Π° ΠΌΠΎΡ€Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Π°ΠΌΠΈ ΠΌΡ‹ Π΅Ρ‘ ΠΈ Π½Π΅ разглядСли. ( ВсСм ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Π°ΠΌ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠΌΠ΅Ρ€Π½ΠΎ
МоСго возраста ,ΠΈΡ‰ΡƒΡ‰ΠΈΠΌ ΠΌΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ΄Ρ‹Ρ… Π΄Π»ΠΈΠ½Π½ΠΎΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΈΡ… Π±Π»ΠΎΠ½Π΄ΠΈΠ½ΠΎΠΊ - посвящаСтся)

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Hermann, 55 y.o.

Germany

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@ Ben,
ich sehe es ein wenig anders,
als Mann sollte man solche Themen grundsΓ€tzlich meiden, als Deutscher erst recht, es sei denn man studiert Sozial-Demagogik  

P.S. ich gehe stark davon aus, daß er weder "geistig gescheitert" ist, noch eine "schiefe Wahrnehmung" hat - ich tendiere eher zum Gegenteil.

Abgesehen davon, stimmt es schon, daß die Mehrheit der Deutschen seit 2002 stets verarmt,
wenn Du darΓΌber sachlich diskutieren mΓΆchtest, kΓΆnnte ich einen separaten TrΓΆΓΆt starten.

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Liudmila, 54 y.o.

Germany

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ΠΠ±ΡΠΎΠ»ΡŽΡ‚Π½ΠΎ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ. Π”Π°ΠΆΠ΅ скаТу большС, Ρ‡Π΅Π»ΠΎΠ²Π΅ΠΊ примСряСт Π½Π° сСбя Ρ‚Π΅ΠΎΡ€ΠΈΡŽ, Π½Π°Ρ…ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΡ‚ совпадСния ΠΈ объяснСния своим Π½Π΅ΡƒΠ΄Π°Ρ‡Π°ΠΌ ΠΈ ΡƒΠ²Π΅Ρ€ΡƒΠ΅Ρ‚ Π² Π½Π΅Π΅ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ Π² истину. Π§Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½Π°ΠΌ ΠΈ Π±Ρ‹Π»ΠΎ продСмонстрировано.


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Yuliya

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ΠžΠ±Ρ‹Ρ‡Π½ΠΎ, Π΄Π°ΠΆΠ΅ Ссли Ρ‡Π΅Π»ΠΎΠ²Π΅ΠΊ Π³ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΡ€ΠΈΡ‚ ΠΎ Ρ‡Π΅ΠΌ-Ρ‚ΠΎ, Ρ‚ΠΎ всС Ρ€Π°Π²Π½ΠΎ ΠΎΠ½ Π³ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΡ€ΠΈΡ‚ ΠΎ сСбС. Π’ΠΎΠΎΠ±Ρ‰Π΅ схСмы ΠΎΡ‚Ρ€Π°ΠΆΠ°ΡŽΡ‚ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊΡƒΡŽ-Ρ‚ΠΎ Π΄Π΅ΠΉΡΡ‚Π²ΠΈΡ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎΡΡ‚ΡŒ/систСму ΠΊΠΎΠΎΡ€Π΄ΠΈΠ½Π°Ρ‚. Π’ схСмС 1955 Π³ΠΎΠ΄Π° ΠΌΠΎΠ³Ρƒ ΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄ΠΏΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠΆΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Ρ€Π΅Ρ‡ΡŒ ΠΈΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ ΠΎ ΡΠΎΡ†ΠΈΠ°Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎΠΌ статусС, ΠΊΠΎΠ³Π΄Π° Π²Ρ‹Π±ΠΎΡ€ ΠΏΠ°Ρ€Ρ‚Π½Π΅Ρ€Π° Π±Ρ‹Π» ΠΎΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄Π΅Π»Π΅Π½ ΠΊΡ€ΡƒΠ³ΠΎΠΌ людСй ΠΈΠ· своСго ΡΠΎΡ†ΠΈΠ°Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ статуса. Π’ 2015 Π³ΠΎΠ΄Ρƒ соотвСтствиС Π½Π°Ρ€ΡƒΡˆΠ΅Π½ΠΎ. Нагрузка Π½Π° ΡƒΡΠΏΠ΅ΡˆΠ½Ρ‹Ρ… ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½ явно возросла. Π’.Π΅. ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Π° с Π½ΠΈΠ·ΠΊΠΈΠΌ ΡΠΎΡ†ΠΈΠ°Π»ΡŒΠ½Ρ‹ΠΌ статусом ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚ Π²Ρ‹Π±Ρ€Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Ρƒ ΠΈΠ· Π±ΠΎΠ»Π΅Π΅ высокого ΡΠΎΡ†ΠΈΠ°Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ статуса (красота Π΄Π°Π΅Ρ‚ эту Π²ΠΎΠ·ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ½ΠΎΡΡ‚ΡŒ).
Π£ΡΠΏΠ΅ΡˆΠ½Ρ‹Π΅ люди скорСС всСго просто ΡΠ΄Π΅Π»Π°ΡŽΡ‚ свой Π²Ρ‹Π±ΠΎΡ€, исходя ΠΈΠ· своих потрСбностСй, способностСй ΠΈ возмоТностСй. Π’ΠΎΠΎΠ±Ρ‰Π΅ Ссли ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Π° всС ΠΏΡ€ΠΎ сСбя Π·Π½Π°Π΅Ρ‚ ΠΈ Π½Π΅ Π²ΠΈΡ‚Π°Π΅Ρ‚ Π² ΠΎΠ±Π»Π°ΠΊΠ°Ρ…, ΠΎΠ½ Π»Π΅Π³ΠΊΠΎ сдСлаСт свой Π²Ρ‹Π±ΠΎΡ€. Взяв Π½Π° сСбя ΠΎΡ‚Π²Π΅Ρ‚ΡΡ‚Π²Π΅Π½Π½ΠΎΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ Π·Π° успСх, Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ ΠΈ Π·Π° Π½Π΅ΡƒΠ΄Π°Ρ‡Ρƒ. Π’Π°ΠΊΠΆΠ΅ маловСроятно, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΎΠ½ Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈ этом Π·Π°ΠΌΠΎΡ€Π°Ρ‡ΠΈΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒΡΡ Ρ‡Π΅Π³ΠΎ ΠΊΠΎΠΌΡƒ Ρ…Π²Π°Ρ‚ΠΈΠ»ΠΎ, Π° Ρ‡Π΅Π³ΠΎ ΠΊΠΎΠΌΡƒ Π½Π΅ Ρ…Π²Π°Ρ‚ΠΈΠ»ΠΎ. Π Π°Π·ΠΌΡ‹ΡˆΠ»ΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΎ нСсправСдливости ΠΆΠΈΠ·Π½ΠΈ ΠΈ ΠΏΠΎΡ‡Π΅ΠΌΡƒ ΠΊΠΎΠΌΡƒ-Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρ‡Π΅Π³ΠΎ-Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½Π΅ Ρ…Π²Π°Ρ‚Π°Π΅Ρ‚ свойствСнно ΠΎΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄Π΅Π»Π΅Π½Π½ΠΎΠΉ ΠΊΠ°Ρ‚Π΅Π³ΠΎΡ€ΠΈΠΈ людСй.

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Π’ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ½Ρ†ΠΈΠΏΠ΅ Ρ€Π΅Π°Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎΡΡ‚ΡŒ Ρƒ ΠΊΠ°ΠΆΠ΄ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ своя. Если Ρ‡Π΅Π»ΠΎΠ²Π΅ΠΊ Π΅Π΅ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ Π²ΠΈΠ΄ΠΈΡ‚, Ρ‚ΠΎ Π·Π½Π°Ρ‡ΠΈΡ‚ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ ΡƒΠ΄ΠΎΠ±Π½ΠΎ.


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Ben

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To me it's inexplicable how avman of his age manages to be as immature and infantile as that. It's really shocking to bear witness how their own self-pity, emotion deprivation and lack of self confidence results in condemning the whole world and trying to shift the blame on women. I suppose that really is the tragic nature of all these ideological 'battles' - no sane person would ever feel the need to become a Nazi, a communist, a fascist or a woman hater for that matter. Different creeds wiyn the same root. It's so easy and convenient to blamd others for one's own imperfections. Alas, self-reflection takes courage - a virtue that this specimen of the human race seems to lack entirely: too much pampering by mama for him, I Guess's. If he had grown up to learn respect for his mother, he wouldn't ever talk like that. Pathetic really.

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Liudmila, 54 y.o.

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Наоборот! Π’Ρ‹ сколько Ρ€Π°Π· Π·Π°ΠΌΡƒΠΆ Ρ…ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠ»Π°? Π’ΠΎΡ‚ Ρ‚Π΅Π±Π΅ ΠΈ ΠΏΠΎΠ΄Ρ‚Π²Π΅Ρ€ΠΆΠ΄Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ Ρ‚Π΅ΠΎΡ€ΠΈΠΈ  .
Π§Ρ‚ΠΎ Π·Π° упадничСскиС настроСния ΠΈ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ²Ρ‹Ρ‡ΠΊΠ° ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠΆΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ сСбя Π½Π° ноль?
И это Ρ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ тСория ΠΈΠ»ΠΈ исслСдования. Мало Π»ΠΈ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΈΡΡΠ»Π΅Π΄ΡƒΡŽΡ‚  .


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Galina

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Π·Π½Π°Ρ‡ΠΈΡ‚ , ΠΌΠ½Π΅ , сирой ΠΈ ΡƒΠ±ΠΎΠ³ΠΎΠΉ , Π½Π° сайтС знакомств Π΄Π΅Π»Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Π½Π΅Ρ‡Π΅Π³ΠΎ . МСня Π½Π΅ Π²Ρ‹Π±Π΅Ρ€ΡƒΡ‚ . Но ΠΈ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΈΠ΅ , ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ ΠšΡ€ΠΈΡΡ‚ΠΎΡ„Ρ„ ΠΌΠ½Π΅ Π½Π΅ Π½ΡƒΠΆΠ½Ρ‹ . Π― Π½Π΅ Π½Π° ΡΡ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠ½ΠΎΠΊΠ°  


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Ben

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Kaum zu glauben, dass der Kerl 48 sein will. Er schreibt wie ein hilfloser Teenie. Ich frage mich, was bei dem alles (Erziehung, Bildung, Wahrnehmung) schiefgelaufen ist.
Klingt nach "bitter enttΓ€uscht von Mama", "aufgewachsen ohne Papa" und "keiner mag mich, alle sind gegen mich"
Nietzsche Bad in glorifizierten Selbstmitleid und unterdrΓΌckten Komplexen. Aus psychologischer Warte ein hoffnungsloser Fall, aus geistiger Warte eine gescheiterte Existenz. Da wundert es auch kaum, dass bei ihm Deutschland zu einem "armen Land" verkommt - immerhin wohnt er ja da (leider...).


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Chris

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Love will save the world, as they say) I wish you all the best too, Elena  


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Ben

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I think you need therapy, pal.
And you say, you've found somebody ... πŸ˜†πŸ˜‚

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Liudmila, 54 y.o.

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Если Ρ€Π°ΡΡΠΌΠ°Ρ‚Ρ€ΠΈΠ²Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Π½Π΅ Ρ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ со стороны Π²Ρ‹Π³ΠΎΠ΄Ρ‹ ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Π°, Π½ΠΎ ΠΈ ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Ρ‹, Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΈ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ²Π»Π΅ΠΊΠ°Ρ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½Π°Ρ ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Π° ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚ сСбС ΠΏΠΎΠ·Π²ΠΎΠ»ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Π²Ρ‹Π±ΠΈΡ€Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ, Π² Ρ‚ΠΎΠΌ числС ΠΈ ΠΈΠ· ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΈΡ… ΡƒΡΠΏΠ΅ΡˆΠ½Ρ‹Ρ… ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½. Π’ Ρ‚ΠΎ врСмя, ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ ΠΌΠ΅Π½Π΅Π΅- ΠΈΠ»ΠΈ Π½Π΅ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ²Π»Π΅ΠΊΠ°Ρ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½Π°Ρ ΠΈΠΌΠ΅Π΅Ρ‚ мСньшС шансов. ΠŸΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΠΌΡƒ "Π½Π΅ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ²Π»Π΅ΠΊΠ°Ρ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½Π°Ρ" Π΄ΠΎΠ»ΠΆΠ½Π° ΠΏΠΎΠ²Ρ‹ΡˆΠ°Ρ‚ΡŒ свою Ρ†Π΅Π½Π½ΠΎΡΡ‚ΡŒ Ρ€Π°Π·Π½Ρ‹ΠΌΠΈ Π½Π°Π²Ρ‹ΠΊΠ°ΠΌΠΈ ΠΈ способностями  . Π­Ρ‚ΠΎ Ссли ΠΏΠΎΠ΄ΠΊΠ»ΡŽΡ‡ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ ΡΠΎΠ·Π½Π°Ρ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎΡΡ‚ΡŒ.
Но Ρ‚Π΅ ΡƒΡ‡Π΅Π½Ρ‹Π΅, ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹Π΅ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠ»ΠΈ эти исслСдования, ΡΡΡ‹Π»Π°ΡŽΡ‚ΡΡ Π½Π° Ρ‚ΠΎ, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΎΠ΅ ΠΏΠΎΠ²Π΅Π΄Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ диктуСтся ΠΈΡΠΊΠ»ΡŽΡ‡ΠΈΡ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ Π³ΠΎΡ€ΠΌΠΎΠ½Π°ΠΌΠΈ, скаТСм Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ ΠΆΠΈΠ²ΠΎΡ‚Π½Ρ‹ΠΌ Π½Π°Ρ‡Π°Π»ΠΎΠΌ, Ρ‚.Π΅. Π±Π΅ΡΡΠΎΠ·Π½Π°Ρ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ. Π­Ρ‚ΠΎ Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ-Ρ‚ΠΎ Π²Ρ€ΠΎΠ΄Π΅ прСсловутой любимой ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΈΠΌΠΈ Π΄Π°ΠΌΠ°ΠΌΠΈ Ρ‚Π΅ΠΎΡ€ΠΈΠΈ "ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Π° - ΠΎΡ…ΠΎΡ‚Π½ΠΈΠΊ, ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Π° Π΄ΠΎΠ»ΠΆΠ½Π° вСсти сСбя Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎΠ±Ρ‹ Π΅Π΅ добивались".
А Π³Π°Ρ€Π΅ΠΌΡ‹ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΈ Π΄Π° - Π²Ρ‹Ρ…ΠΎΠ΄  . Волько посмотри Ρ‚Ρ‹ ΠΏΠΎΠ΄ΠΎΠ±Π½ΠΎ ΠšΡ€ΠΈΡΡ‚ΠΎΡ„Ρƒ ΠΈΠ½Ρ‚Π΅Ρ€ΠΏΡ€Π΅Ρ‚ΠΈΡ€ΠΎΠ²Π°Π»Π° всС Π² ΠΏΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠ·Ρƒ Ρ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ ΠΎΠ΄Π½ΠΎΠΉ "ΠΎΠ±Π΄Π΅Π»Π΅Π½Π½ΠΎΠΉ, ΠΎΠ±ΠΈΠΆΠ΅Π½Π½ΠΎΠΉ" стороны.


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Galina

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Π›ΡŽΠ΄ΠΌΠΈΠ»Π° , получаСтся , Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π³Π°Ρ€Π΅ΠΌΡ‹ всё Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΈ ΠΈΠΌΠ΅ΡŽΡ‚ смысл ? Если ΡƒΡΠΏΠ΅ΡˆΠ½Ρ‹ΠΉ ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Π° Π²Ρ‹Π±ΠΈΡ€Π°Π΅Ρ‚ ΠΌΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ΄Ρ‹Ρ… ΠΈ красивых ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½ , ΠΎΠ½ ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚ ΠΏΠΎΠ·Π²ΠΎΠ»ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ сСбС Π½Π΅ ΠΎΠ΄Π½Ρƒ ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Ρƒ . ΠžΡΡ‚Π°Π»ΡŒΠ½Ρ‹Π΅ ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Ρ‹ ΠΎΡΡ‚Π°ΡŽΡ‚ΡΡ Π½Π΅ вострСбованными . И я Π±Ρ‹ согласилась с этим . НО ... ΠœΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ΄ΠΎΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΈ красота проходят . ΠŸΠΎΠ»ΡƒΡ‡Π°Π΅Ρ‚ΡΡ , Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½Π΅ΠΌΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ΄Ρ‹Ρ… ΠΈ сморщСнных ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΎΠΉ ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Π° Π²ΠΏΡ€Π°Π²Π΅ ΡƒΠ±Ρ€Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ ΠΈΠ· Π΅Π³ΠΎ ΠΆΠΈΠ·Π½ΠΈ ΠΈ Π²Ρ‹Π±Ρ€Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Π½ΠΎΠ²Ρ‹Ρ… ΠΌΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ΄Ρ‹Ρ… ΠΈ красивых . Но это прямая Π΄ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΠ³Π° ΠΊ дискриминации ΠΏΠΎ ΠΏΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ²ΠΎΠΌΡƒ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ·Π½Π°ΠΊΡƒ . И Π²ΠΎΠ·Π²Ρ€Π°Ρ‰Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ Π½Π°Π·Π°Π΄ , ΠΊΠΎΠ³Π΄Π° ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Π° - Ρ‚ΠΎΠ²Π°Ρ€ . И Π·Π°Ρ‡Π΅ΠΌ красивой ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Π΅ ΠΎΠ±Ρ€Π°Π·ΠΎΠ²Π°Π½ΠΈΠ΅ , Ссли ΠΎΠ½Π° Π±ΡƒΠ΄Π΅Ρ‚ ΠΆΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Π·Π° счёт ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½ ? Но Ссли ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Π° зависит ΠΎΡ‚ ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Ρ‹ - ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Π° ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚ Π±ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Ρƒ . Π’Π΅Π΄ΡŒ ΠΎΠ½ относится ΠΊ Π½Π΅ΠΉ , ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ ΠΊ Π²Π΅Ρ‰ΠΈ . Π’ России ΡƒΠΆΠ΅ Π΅ΡΡ‚ΡŒ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΎΠ΅ Π΄Π²ΠΈΠΆΠ΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅ ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½ . Π–Π΅Π½Π° Π΄ΠΎΠ»ΠΆΠ½Π° Π±Ρ‹Ρ‚ΡŒ Π±Π΅Π·ΠΌΠΎΠ»Π²Π½ΠΎΠΉ ΠΏΠΎΠΊΠΎΡ€Π½ΠΎΠΉ Π²Π΅Ρ‰ΡŒΡŽ ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Ρ‹ . А Ссли Π½Π΅Ρ‚ - ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Π° ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚ Π΅Ρ‘ ΡƒΡ‡ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΊΡƒΠ»Π°ΠΊΠΎΠΌ . И Π·Π°Ρ‡Π΅ΠΌ , Π² Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΎΠΌ случаС , Π²Ρ‹Ρ…ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Π·Π°ΠΌΡƒΠΆ ? Π­Ρ‚ΠΎ Π½Π΅Π²Ρ‹Π³ΠΎΠ΄Π½ΠΎ ΠΈ Π΄Π°ΠΆΠ΅ опасно .

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Elena, 49 y.o.

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Chris, you're right! When a man has his own complexes, he believes that all the women of the world are bad and it looks stupid. It is strange that he does not understand it! I wish you to meet a good girl!

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Eric, 77 y.o.

Netherlands

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Ok Billy ,

So you are setteling down now ... ?
I'm glad for you ...

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Eric, 77 y.o.

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Chris ,

Like I said in a previous post , the young women /girls from CIS countries and Russia have a different mindset and vieuw on life.

Unlike Slavic women /girls from before the breakdown of the Iron Curtain and the Berlin Wall.

Today's young Slavic girls grew up in a different time and age.With multiple changes happening in their lifes.

In their country changing from a
socialist to a more open economic market.

They did enjoy all the freedom and benefits that came with the changing of the new political and social situation in their country.

Some countries became a partner of the EU - making it more easy for these people to travel abroad.

Furthermore they also did learn to use the new tools (apps) and technology.And they now could learn English at school.

Many possibilities where now at their disposal.Like freedom of speech , developing themselves in many fields.

Taking part in international students exchange programs.

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So sure enough these young women /girls looked at the world with other eyes , than their older friends , parents , relatives.

So , I don't blame you for feeling and seeing things in your way.

If you had known life at the time of the Cold War and the Iron Curtain in former USSR then you would have known how the average Russian would look at life and what the outlook was for the future.

I am inclined to believe that you don't know how life was in the (old) USSR.

But you see I do ...
I did cross the Iron Curtain several times with the car.

I lived with and among the Russian people for many weeks.I have visited homes from very poor to very rich people.

And in every home I felt at ease and welcomed.I did not distinguished between poor or rich.

For me that had no meaning at all.

I have learned about and seen the differences between Communist Party and non-CP members.

So I know how a traditional Slavic woman will behave.What her virtues are and why she would behave in a particular way.

To know all this you will have to be a Russian.

And I think that I can fairly say that I'm a Russian ...

(now learning Russian) ...

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Liudmila, 54 y.o.

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НС Π² цСлях Π·Π°Ρ‰ΠΈΡ‚Ρ‹ ΠšΡ€ΠΈΡΡ‚ΠΎΡ„Π°, Π° справСдливости Ρ€Π°Π΄ΠΈ...
Π’Π° тСория, ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€ΡƒΡŽ ΠΎΠ½ ΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄Π»ΠΎΠΆΠΈΠ» ГипСргамия, Ρ€Π΅Π°Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎ сущСствуСт. Π’ соотвСтствии с Π½Π΅ΠΉ (Ρ‚Π΅ΠΎΡ€ΠΈΠ΅ΠΉ) "ΠžΡ‚Π΄Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½Ρ‹Π΅ исслСдования Π²Ρ‹Π±ΠΎΡ€Π° Π±Ρ€Π°Ρ‡Π½Ρ‹Ρ… ΠΏΠ°Ρ€Ρ‚Π½Π΅Ρ€ΠΎΠ² ΠΏΠΎΠΊΠ°Π·Π°Π»ΠΈ, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Ρ‹ ΠΈ ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Ρ‹ ΠΏΠΎ-Ρ€Π°Π·Π½ΠΎΠΌΡƒ подходят ΠΊ Π²Ρ‹Π±ΠΎΡ€Ρƒ супругов: ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Ρ‹ ΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄ΠΏΠΎΡ‡ΠΈΡ‚Π°ΡŽΡ‚ ΠΌΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ΄Ρ‹Ρ… ΠΈ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ²Π»Π΅ΠΊΠ°Ρ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½Ρ‹Ρ… ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½, Π° ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Ρ‹ склонны ΠΏΡ€Π΅Π΄ΠΏΠΎΡ‡ΠΈΡ‚Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½, ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹Π΅ Π±ΠΎΠ³Π°Ρ‚Ρ‹, Ρ…ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΡˆΠΎ ΠΎΠ±Ρ€Π°Π·ΠΎΠ²Π°Π½Ρ‹, Π°ΠΌΠ±ΠΈΡ†ΠΈΠΎΠ·Π½Ρ‹ ΠΈ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ²Π»Π΅ΠΊΠ°Ρ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½Ρ‹. По мнСнию Π½Π΅ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹Ρ… ΡΠ²ΠΎΠ»ΡŽΡ†ΠΈΠΎΠ½Π½Ρ‹Ρ… психологов это Π½Π΅ΠΎΡ‚ΡŠΠ΅ΠΌΠ»Π΅ΠΌΡ‹Π΅ ΠΏΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ²Ρ‹Π΅ различия, обусловлСнныС ΠΏΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠ²Ρ‹ΠΌ ΠΎΡ‚Π±ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΠΌ Ρƒ Ρ‡Π΅Π»ΠΎΠ²Π΅ΠΊΠ°, ΠΊΠΎΠ³Π΄Π° ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Ρ‹ стрСмятся Π½Π°ΠΉΡ‚ΠΈ ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Ρƒ, ΡΠΏΠΎΡΠΎΠ±Π½ΡƒΡŽ Ρ€ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ Π·Π΄ΠΎΡ€ΠΎΠ²Ρ‹Ρ… Π΄Π΅Ρ‚Π΅ΠΉ, Π° ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Ρ‹ стрСмятся Π½Π°ΠΉΡ‚ΠΈ ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Ρƒ, ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹ΠΉ Π±ΡƒΠ΄ΡƒΡ‚ Π² состоянии ΠΎΠ±Π΅ΡΠΏΠ΅Ρ‡ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒ сСмью Π½Π΅ΠΎΠ±Ρ…ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠΌΡ‹ΠΌΠΈ рСсурсами." (Ρ†)
ΠšΠΎΠΌΡƒ интСрСсно, ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ½ΠΎ ΠΎΠ·Π½Π°ΠΊΠΎΠΌΠΈΡ‚ΡŒΡΡ, Π² Π˜Π½Ρ‚Π΅Ρ€Π½Π΅Ρ‚Π΅ ΠΌΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ΠΌΠ°Ρ‚Π΅Ρ€ΠΈΠ°Π»ΠΎΠ². И доля истины Ρ‚Π°ΠΌ присутствуСт. Волько ΠΎΠ½ ΠΊΠ°ΠΊ-Ρ‚ΠΎ ΠΎΠ΄Π½ΠΎΠ±ΠΎΠΊΠΎ Π΅Π΅ ΠΈΠ½Ρ‚Π΅Ρ€ΠΏΡ€Π΅Ρ‚ΠΈΡ€ΡƒΠ΅Ρ‚.
НС понятно Π·Π°Ρ‡Π΅ΠΌ ΠΎΠ½ "ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠΏΠ»Π΅Π»" Ρ†Π΅Π»Π΅ΡΠΎΠΎΠ±Ρ€Π°Π·Π½ΠΎΡΡ‚ΡŒ ΠΆΠ΅Π½ΠΈΡ‚ΡŒΠ±Ρ‹ Π½Π° ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Π°Ρ… ΠΈΠ· "Π±Π΅Π΄Π½Ρ‹Ρ… стран", Ссли ΠΏΠΎ Π΅Π³ΠΎ ΠΆΠ΅ словам это модСль повСдСния всСх ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½. Π’ΠΈΠ΄ΠΈΠΌΠΎ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΠ±Π»Π΅ΠΌΡ‹ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΈ ΠΊΡ€ΠΎΡŽΡ‚ΡΡ Π² Π΅Π³ΠΎ Π»ΠΈΡ‡Π½ΠΎΠΌ ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΡˆΠ»ΠΎΠΌ.

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Π§Ρ‚ΠΎ касаСтся ΠΊΠ°Ρ€Ρ‚ΠΈΠ½ΠΊΠΈ, я Π±Ρ‹ ΠΈΠ½Ρ‚Π΅Ρ€ΠΏΡ€Π΅Ρ‚ΠΈΡ€ΠΎΠ²Π°Π»Π° Π΅Π΅ ΡΠ»Π΅Π΄ΡƒΡŽΡ‰ΠΈΠΌ ΠΎΠ±Ρ€Π°Π·ΠΎΠΌ (это Ρ‚ΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΎ ΠΌΠΎΠ΅ Π²ΠΈΠ΄Π΅Π½ΠΈΠ΅, я понятия Π½Π΅ имСю Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ это Π·Π° схСма):


ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΡ€ΠΎΠ΄ΠΎΠΉ прСдусмотрСно ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠΌΠ΅Ρ€Π½ΠΎ ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠ½Π°ΠΊΠΎΠ²ΠΎΠ΅ количСство особСй муТского ΠΈ ТСнского ΠΏΠΎΠ»Π°, скаТСм Ρ‚Π°ΠΊ ΠΊΠ°ΠΆΠ΄ΠΎΠΉ "Ρ‚Π²Π°Ρ€ΠΈ ΠΏΠΎ ΠΏΠ°Ρ€Π΅". Но ΠΏΠΎΠ΄ влияниСм социума ΠΈ Π΅Ρ‰Π΅ Ρ‡Π΅Ρ€Ρ‚ Π·Π½Π°Π΅Ρ‚ Ρ‡Π΅Π³ΠΎ (ΠΌΠΎΠΆΠ΅Ρ‚ ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΡ€ΠΎΠ΄Π½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ΠΎΡ‚Π±ΠΎΡ€Π°), ТСнскиС особи склонны Π²Ρ‹Π±ΠΈΡ€Π°Ρ‚ΡŒ Π±ΠΎΠ»Π΅Π΅ сильного ΠΏΠ°Ρ€Ρ‚Π½Π΅Ρ€Π° (Π² Ρ€Π°Π·Π½Ρ‹Ρ… смыслах - Π±ΠΎΠ³Π°Ρ‚ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ, внСшнС ΠΏΡ€ΠΈΠ²Π»Π΅ΠΊΠ°Ρ‚Π΅Π»ΡŒΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ, ΡƒΡΠΏΠ΅ΡˆΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ, интСрСсного ΠΈ Ρ‚.Π΄.). Π’Π°ΠΊΠΈΠΌ ΠΎΠ±Ρ€Π°Π·ΠΎΠΌ, Π½Π΅ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹Π΅ Π½Π΅ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΈΠ΅ ΡƒΡΠΏΠ΅ΡˆΠ½Ρ‹Π΅ особи ΠΎΡΡ‚Π°ΡŽΡ‚ΡΡ Π½Π΅ Ρƒ Π΄Π΅Π», ΠΎΠ΄ΠΈΠ½ΠΎΠΊΠΈΠΌΠΈ. А Ρ‚Π΅, ΠΊΡ‚ΠΎ сильнСС, Ρ‚Π΅ ΠΈΠΌΠ΅ΡŽΡ‚ Π²Ρ‹Π±ΠΎΡ€ ΠΈΠ· Π½Π΅ΡΠΊΠΎΠ»ΡŒΠΊΠΈΡ… особСй ΠΏΡ€ΠΎΡ‚ΠΈΠ²ΠΎΠΏΠΎΠ»ΠΎΠΆΠ½ΠΎΠ³ΠΎ ΠΏΠΎΠ»Π°.
Π­Ρ‚Π° ΠΊΠ°Ρ€Ρ‚ΠΈΠ½ΠΊΠ° Π΄ΠΎΠΊΠ°Π·Ρ‹Π²Π°Π΅Ρ‚, Ρ‡Ρ‚ΠΎ Π²Ρ‹Π±ΠΈΡ€Π°Π΅Ρ‚ Ρ‚Π°ΠΊΠΈ ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½Π°. А ΠΌΡƒΠΆΡ‡ΠΈΠ½Π° ΠΈΠ· Ρ‚Π΅Ρ… ΠΆΠ΅Π½Ρ‰ΠΈΠ½, ΠΊΠΎΡ‚ΠΎΡ€Ρ‹Π΅ Π½Π° Π½Π΅Π³ΠΎ ΠΎΠ±Ρ€Π°Ρ‚ΠΈΠ»ΠΈ Π²Π½ΠΈΠΌΠ°Π½ΠΈΠ΅.
Π’ΠΎΡ‚ такая моя вольная интСрпрСтация  .





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