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Salvador

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Dear friends at Russia,

I have a delicate and special question about how is the law at Russia when a person from Ukraine now with russian passport, could be in court due to a debt on master degree college.



She said to me she could be arrested and for how long it would be - months, years-, when she only need a regular work near moscow ( with an average income of USD$1,200) can pay the debt of school and have a regular life.

what consequences could be ???

Deportation??

Detention??

a fine ??

How can we help my friend as to have a decent work there?? She has a red diploma and in the pictures very happy among their school comrades on the gruppal picture.

Does any person here could help as to find a Job?? She has a master degree with excellence on Space/Astronautics related field.

Thanks for any advice, I am really worried for my dear friend to who I swear to protect and care under my own possibilities......

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Aksi


I don't know the practice of departation. They can drop out of College. In General, you need to read the contract for the provision of services, everything should be spelled out: fines, sanctions and other consequences.


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Wiwiena


Is this your girlfriend?? Business Partner?? For a joint purchase of the land in Moscow? and the same business lady for create business?))) OMG.. How old is she? Why, I ask you WHY she even can not pay for the education? I think the game began 😊 )) The adult man and the young girl in troubles. Usually it works as a Russian woman and an American military man with a small child who lies in a hospital. He will soon have a million dollars, but now he needs 2000 dollars, for his little girl doesnt sleep at the street when he is sick. How much money does she ask you? maybe your translations for education will be all the time not enough. Then it will be necessary to pay a lawyer so that she does not go to jail. What prose .. life never teaches on someone else's mistakes ..


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L


You said she had a passport already - that means a deportation is not an option.
As for being arrested for having debts - very funny.. I am an official receiver so just believe me she couldn't be arrested but proceeded with personal bankruptcy.


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Salvador

Reply to Wiwiena on View the commented comment

I never give money as a gift, only work.

The only way to see the true is being there and witness.

This is just a simple question, not a love question.

People of Monterrey and all Mexico country, give real help to national and foreigners in case of urgency. That's our mentallity


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L

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Иногда люди сами хотят быть одураченными.. не будем им мешать получить желаемое 

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Vera, 50 y.o.

Russia

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In Russia nothing is provided in advance. All education each semester is paid beforehand before the studies begun. If the semester is not paid she is not allowed to enter her course. So I don't believe in this that she is in debts because of education as the service won't be provided before she paid, so there won't be debts. Concerning the work, it is true there is no job for people who don't have relatives or close acquaintances in the business where person wants to work. In this nobody especially in internet will help. Concerning her education looks like such education is not needed in russia. All you can do is go to russia, get married to her, bring her to your country and give her job in your business.


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David


What I love about international relationship is that the scam ain’t always visable at the start!

Starting to sound like Rick 2....

I’ve had a few scam attempts against me but so far other than the odd double charge at the restaurant trick I ain’t really been a victim!


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Salvador

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I never give money to any person, only my children.

What she is asking is a job,

About the concern of something on debts, I am always sceptical with persons. That is why I am a business man.

Marry me again with a young woman??? Hilarious!!!

This is just a question,

I have rejected many men and women who seek for free money.


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Salvador

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That's correct david, that is why it is necessary to travel often as I do not believe on virtual relations.

In my last travels I had met beautiful ladies, even I never knew them until i visited the place. Why? How?

Even i have been assaulted when ladies took a kiss in the mouth without my permission ( it was excellent!!!!)


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David

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I think western men often looked at has stupid... Eastern Europe women often the most intelligent 🤓... a man can prove his worth and gain respect by showing he has a voice... Being a man includes making all the arrangements... if you allow the woman to get Hotel.... get Airplane.... book tours.... she’s acting like the man and you become stupid man.... many of these lady’s have spent years with bad men... it’s not about kiss or looks it’s much deeper than this..... woman wants a strong man and strong lover who can protect and safeguard her future... if a woman can get the money above you qoute off you.

You have then proved to be stupid man.... but to ask for this money you have already lost this woman’s respect for you!

I regard you highly Salvador so I’m sure this is a mistake you will avoid and learn from!


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Wiwiena

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but I know one real thing.. young girl never will spend time to the old men for free.. the law of the life. Gifts, money, lux trips.. you must to do it anyway   so, you have no choice I think..  
if she is smart - she studies for free and even receives a scholarship. It's almost everywhere. If she is studying for money - all rates are on the university's website. If the university is not cult and cool, the prices are not high.. but I think the real reason is above.. it's time to name the tariff for suggar daddy   Do not be offended, but did you really think otherwise?..


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Salvador

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Thanks for you sincere reply.

Again, I do not give a cent to anyone free.

I share money with mutual work.

Everyone has their own ideas and I respect the ideas of others.

Best Regards,

" Cada quien hace se su vida, un San Quintin"


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Salvador

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If making a net profit of USD $ 1,000 + 1,000 in the past for each my friend and me is a fool and stupid mindset, I am glad we are dumbs....

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Olga, 47 y.o.

Azerbaijan

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это не реально в России. оплата должна быть проведена в течении каждого семестра иначе человек не будет допущен к экзаменам. иметь задолжность за обучение не реально. тех кто не заплатил просто отчисляют. тем более нельзя закончить платное обучение не заплатив за обучение   и уж тем более с красным дипломом   это откровенная ложь


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Salvador

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Thanks Olga, Again a I see people do not ask first and always put their own thoughts in the words.

She is asking me for a Job, Not Money as she knows how I am.

In our temporal business we have made good regular profits, not big ones; but I see a young person who wants to fight and find a place in this world.

As I grew up surrounded by my little girls cousins, I always used to protect them a lot. It is my mindset to help persons who really deserves it. But never pass free money to any one except my children who are my obligations.

What I wanted to know is a third party as to check the story, I am always skeptical and check for a valid argument.

Thanks a lot!!!


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Salvador

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Here in Mexico, it is regular to ask for a schollarship sponsoring, where at the 7th grade, the student starts to work and after graduation, he / she pay all their debt on this schollarship.

I never knew about how it is at Russia.

My first Idea of how to live there after retirement is to get into University,

The second Idea is to find a russian partner as to produce money with business, here the confidence shall be demostrated.

The third way to live there is by me marring with a Russian woman  


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Wiwiena

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I am glad for your mentality, you can help her very easy) Dont ask our permission and without talks then.. what do you wait from us? its your baby friend   less words, more actions 


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David

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Salvador You are not only man in Mexico... Why does She need You to be the agent? There are many countrys and agents does this girls name begin with A and age 40+ ? If answer to this is Yes be very careful!!

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Olga, 49 y.o.

Russia

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Honestly.... that story sound like scamm. With no more comments


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L

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Do you really find it reasonable and adequate to ask a man from Mexica for a job in Russia? How come? Contrary to reason totally.


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Salvador

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Thanks david,

I have my feet on earth,

Option one for me living there is with no risk for me, it only depends on me. Living there it is more healthy to spend real time with real persons, not the illusion of virtuality.

As second option, find a partner I have male friend who are interested with. Again, I must test.

The third option as to marry, is to put your real feelings and must be the most cautious action. I can not talk here on ladies I looked as love prospect. This is the most delicate to handle.


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Salvador

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Thanks, I have not spent a single peso or dollar for free.

On travels I met marvelous persons besides this story. So never lose something.

But I have found slavic culture very interesting for me I love the language, the cities and of course, the women.....


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Salvador

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It is how events developed.

The main in this journey is that I WANT to live there  


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Salvador

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Interesting Point, I want to do business in Russia, and I have been asked to find internet JOB, I suggested freelance where anyone can find a JOB worldwide.

But I have the facility to have international contacts due to the nature of my work and professional connections.

If in your life you find a "Free Lunch", will you decline it???

As for example our great David encourage men as to do a financial courtesy with ladies who are not able / ready to pay..... for dating.

So nobody refuses a "HELP", unless you untrust people and have had bad experiences.

Emotionally, nobody gives or do something for nothing, even in the most spirituall.

Then there are internal triggers in our living experiences and early years of education that motivates persons to behave in different scenarios.

The point is what is behind in What we think and never say in words, but we say with our corporal body language"?

what is the final intention?? Only real meetings is the way to check and have that trust in persons.

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My motivation is to find the best way to live legally at Russia with VISA, with the less risk for me and the persons who surround me.

If I live by myself as a student, it is only my concern.

If I live doing business with mutual benefits for me and my partner, OK! But then enters the final motivation of the second actor in the "Movie".

If I live there by marry again, it is a big responsability and a lot to win and a lot to lose. It is the most risky situation as you involve a civil union, feelings, rights, a big amount of money for traveling and to cover the expenses of regular life. For me this is the most extreme situation and to find your half side is more dangerous than a bad business relationship.

The final point is, what is the best choice ???

To find a trusted partner, no matter case 2 or case 3, is only showed by interaction with people.

If I lose the trust and confidence with persons due to a "Trick", the damage is the level of compromise,

what are the risks??

case 1, have bad notes at University and spend my money on it,

case 2, have untrusted people spending my money with the risk of a bad business,

case 3, have a broken relation with someone who at the end will not match with our motivations and the level of losses are BIG, REALLY BIG. then me Marry again??? It will takes time, and a lot of investment in efforts and resources....

For me this is the most risk and serious step to do.

About dating women, let me say as for respect to my known persons I met, it was like heaven in the promises...

Best regards, I consider this topic has been commented a lot and I no further discuss about it.

PERIOD!!!


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David

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2 points on what you write Salvador...

1.... If i was You with Your vast experiance id probably make enquirys If It was possible to open a independant consultancy bussiness for metro and other systems just a thought... If You have the correct certificates within your work surely You could be expert witness when things go wrong like this Genoa bridge colapse for example

Re: women.... I pay because Its Ethic and moraly right thing to do.... (food,transport,accomadation) If You find a girl who is out to exploit the situation She will try to get You to buy gifts from her for her family this is a step too far.... because in a Eastern Europe girls mind a gift Has to come from the heart..... a gift cant come from the heart If You use someone elses money to buy this.... Its the most easy way to separate gold diggers from girls who cant afford to pay!!!

I hear your views and respect them....

I respect your wishes to close the subject Thanks for your replys

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Regards Dave


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Nadezhda

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почему она спрашивает работу у Сальвадора ? Я думала работу спрашивают у работодателя, а не на сайте знакомств )))Например , размещают резюме в разделе вакансий .


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L

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ну, наверное магистры аэрокосмической промышленности именно так и трудоустраиваются сразу после диплома на з/п 1200 долларов, не иначе  а, еще есть фото с однокурсниками - это вообще мультипаспорт!   
не в обиду Сальвадору, но захожу в эту тему посмеяться 


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Wiwiena

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может быть потому что Сальвадор - известный космонавт в Мексике? 


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Nadezhda

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    я валяюсь от смеха )))


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Ben


Sorry pal, but sometimes I doubt that you really are a businessman! Anyone with common sense can figure out the following things:

1) deportation was popular in the USSR [the Union of Socialist Soviet Republics] (for "enemies of the state") - predominantly during Stalin's time, so unless you're hardcore Buddhist who believes in reincarnation and thinks that Putin is a more handsome version of Stalin, 'Uncle Joe' is dead, deceased, gone and thus an ex-dictator.

2) A person "from Ukraine with a Russian passport" is a Russian citizen. If you doubt my words - check international law. It is how people are legally defined.

3) A mystery question here: "how can you deport citizens within their own country?"  (Maybe the Carribean Villa... ? Then student's name isn't Natalya by any chance...?)

4) If you swear to protect people, make sure that they're your friends and not friends to your wallet and / or bank account. Otherwise feel free to join Rick on a holiday tour of emotional explotation, after endowing a chair at a Russian university for Studies of Professional Scamming and A(rse)stronomical Swindling...

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