I seek advice
Jean-Marie
Is marriage is an "obligation" for Russian women to glimpse a relationship with a stranger?
Hello Ladies,I ask this question because I am not a supporter of marriage.
I believe that a relationship may well happen without being married.
In Europe many couples live together without being married.
Thank you for your answers
Добрый вечер ! Если рассуждать по современным меркам - это вполне нормально и приемлемо ,другой вопрос - на каких основаниях будет находиться в Европе или в другой стране мира длительное время рядом с Вами избранница ?
Почему Вас не устраивают священные узы брака - это достойное поведение настоящего мужчины перед любимой женщиной и обет перед Богом любить , заботиться и отвечать ?
Или жизнь без брака всё это исключает ?
Если нет ... тогда чего боитесь ?
В России тоже многие пары живут без официальной регистрации брака и очень даже хорошо живут. Вопрос к Вам,Jean-marie, на каком основании Вы собираетесь ввозить русскую даму в Бельгию? как туристку, как знакомую, как работника? Бельгия признаёт законным не зарегистрированное официально сожительство и даёт на это въездную визу и разрешение на учёбу,работу и прочее? с уважением к Вам
Naty
Dear Jean-Marie
You can have a relationship without marriage with a woman from your country or other countries in the Euro Union. What's stopping you?(look at local dating sites ) For other women need a visa for that would be legally with you or you are ready to change your country of residence? If you are satisfied with the relationship at a distance and sometimes meet..
I do not think that you will find a lot of women are willing and ready .In general, Slavic women have another upbringing and the concept of the relationship with a man and want to real the traditional family.
although,, who seeks will always find
good luck to you
Hello, Jean-Marie.You're right, relationship can be well being without married and it doesn't depend on the country. A lot of couples live without being married here too. But...in a civil marriage a lady doesn't have any rights here and I think it's one of the reason to have relationship more oficial.And the other reason that you future wife won't be able to move to your country without a Certificate of marrige because Russia ( and Ukraine aren't members of EU ). Or she can do it illigal and be ready to have problems with the immigration police in your country)))))Good luck and don't be afraid to marry)))
Hello Jean,
I apologize because I'm not a lady or Russian, but I don't understand the thought process posed in your question. If you have a great relationship with a woman and are living together, why would you NOT get married? Are you simply worried about losing assets in a possible divorce?
I don't think marriage is an obligation for russian women. Of course the majority of them think so, as you see in voting.
As for me, if a man is responsible for his life, financially independent, welcome, I can only greet such relationships. With a stipulation we are of the same intellectual level or his one is higher. More of it, he deserves more respect from me, he will become a person of my interest and my hobby Like any hobby I'll miss you...
The question is whether me or he leaves for another country, who is an accepting side.
If a man comes to my country he needs time to find job etc. I must be ready to support him without humiliating. Do you agree?
Are you, men, ready to give these conditions to your beloved one?
"In Europe many couples live together without being married."
Surely with european woman it's much easier - she lives in her country, has job, friends etc. Isn't it a tale men dream of?
Or you dream of a FAIRY TALE? Then you need to invest and patience. Do you agree?
Nataliya
Привет , Надежда !!! Мужчина , все знает . Но...... хочет , узнать наше мнение . Ой ой .... очень хороший мужчинка .
Ой и фантазерка вы, однако. Вот так все и начинается. Сделаем сами из мужчины героя (в его профиле нет абсолютно ничего, что давало бы основание так думать, его профиль я бы сказала пуст), потом жалуемся Ах! я к нему всей душой! А он! Наталья, лучше держите сердечко при себе во избежание разочарований.
Всего вам доброго!
There are different opinions from men and women on the legal registration of a marriage (I believe using the word "marriage" you meant legal marriage) in different countries.
So I would like to give a definition of the word "marriage", to make it easier to talk about this topic.
Marriage is the Union of two equal adults, based on their voluntary choice, the Unity for a common goal, which is to build a comfortable life together with love and care for each other.
Legal marriage is a marriage, secured by the authorized state body (e.g. the department of civil status acts).
Cohabitation is also a marriage, only informal.
So, If you started to live together in the same house and decided to love, care for each other and make you union as strong as possible, you are married !!
Regardless of the legal status of your Union.
It is important to treat the Cohabitation as responsibly as an official marriage and take it very seriously, or better not to start such a coexistence. Therefore, if you have difficulties and relationship problems in your informal marriage, then you must solve them together, instead of fleeing in case of any minor problems, saying : "We're not married, we are just living together". It is not serious, that's not an excuse.
Can only the fact that their marriage is legally secured to strengthen the relationship between a man and a woman and bind them to each other forever? No, if they will not work very hard to keep their love and union!
As you can see both types of marriage involve greater effort on the part of both a man and a woman to maintain and strengthen their Union. In fact, the legal marriage changes nothing (unless people still actively care about each other).
On the other hand, if both of you seriously want to love, care for each other, live together and have children, which obstacles can be for legal registration of this Union? Such a registration is not expensive (the wedding is optional), there are some legal benefits of it (may be not many). I cannot see any harm of it.
I believe men and women have different point of view on this matter.
Men can be in the informal marriage for three reasons:
a) Some don't see the point in the legal registration ( don't want to spend money on useless wedding);
b) Consider the woman with whom they live, as a temporary option.
c) Had negative experiences of a legal marriage in the past and don't want in case of new divorce to have problems with lawyers, courts, partition of property etc. in future. This way such a man is ,in fact, pushing a new wife to pay for his own and his former wife's mistakes.
Many women live with men in informal marriage and suffer from the fact that this marriage is informal.
This suffering badly poisons those women's life, for holding them all the time in an indeterminate state. They are constantly thinking : " This man has already chosen me as his wife or I am still a temporary woman for him?
it is especially painful if a woman wants or already has children. How she can be sure that will have all sorts of support and help from her man in future?
Although, life now is much easier than in the stone age, but even now upbringing a child needs huge material, physical and mental effort and incredibly difficult for a single woman.
I don't understand the problems with the legal registration of marriage. If a man loves a woman and going to live with her all his life, than he must strive to make her life as good as possible (and vice versa). As I have written above, this is the goal and criteria of any marriage.
So, I think, If the legal marriage is very important for your BELOVED woman, (which, according to you, means nothing), then be a real man, marry her legally, give her the marriage certificate, to make her calm and happy.
Nataliya
Эмма !!! Я надеюсь , научитесь , читать ,между строк . Я не поняла , ваш комент . Я свое сердце , давно держу на амбарном замке . Советую , для вас .
Nataliya
Мммммм.... надеюсь , ты поняла . Большой и очень большой привет Астрахани !!! Ты , в каком районе , Астрахани , живешь . Я жила , на Трусово.
Jean-Marie
Hello Svetlana,
At first glance I would not be a real man because I do not believe in marriage?
I am perhaps too modern and cultures collide.
I can tell you that when I love a woman, I'll chérire and I did not need God to make the vow.
I do not fear marriage but for me it is a simple piece of paper. (Without wanting to offend)
Дорогой Jean - marie! Вы пишете , что когда Вы любите женщину , Вам не нужен Бог ... какой срок имеет Ваша любовь ? Один год , три, пять , десять лет .. хочу знать как долго Вы можете любить ...
Вы что обиделись? Извините. Хотела предостеречь. Только и всего.
За совет с "амбарным замком" спасибо, но я пока "молнией" попользуюсь, как-то элегантней и удобней. )))))
Наталья, я смеялась до слез, правда! А вы еще и хулиганка! ))))))))
Спасибо вам за смех! Будьте счастливы!
Jean-Marie
Good evening Marinochka,
I do not like the phrase "import a Russian lady" (or is it the translation?)
Personally I do not consider the woman as an object or a property!
I want a relationship based on dialogue, trust and of course love.
In Belgium the legal Cohabitation is enshrined in law and gives the same rights as married couples.
Now it's true that I do not know the visa-related formalities, to work and live in Belgium for a non-European person.
(I should perhaps find out
Jean-Marie
Good evening Nathalie
I am registered with a dating site "known" but I can not find my happiness.
I find that women from home are complicated, too demanding and unsatisfied ... (maybe it is I who am too demanding?)
Now you're right, the difference in culture can be a drag. I do not know Slavic culture but if they are based on values that I like, for me to make an effort.
Jean-Marie
Thank you for your answer Alla, who is going in the same direction as other answers.
By cons controls are less common here than in Russia (I think).
From the moment you came into the country with a visa, there is little chance that the Immigation Police coursing after you
Anywaythe aim is bein heard everything in the law.
Jean-Marie
Tim,
Good evening and thank you for your answer, even if you're not a woman
All opinions are useful.
It's just that I'm not (more) for the wedding.
When you love someone you do not particularly need a piece of paper to prove it.
This is a point of view of my own, which might shock.
Do not worry for fear of divorce, I divorced the mother of my son and it is very well.
Jean-Marie
Jean-Marie
Good evening Nadezhda,
In fact I do not know the formalities and that is why I am asking about the forum
Jean-Marie
Good evening Emma
I am 100% agree with your different arguments.
I do not believe in fairy tales and I know very well that if I should have a relationship with a Russian woman, this would not happen in 3 months but rather in years and that the difficulties would be great.
We'll see what the future holds for me
Jean-Marie
Goodnight Julia and thank you for your long answer.
Would not you not a legal expert by any chance?
Your point of view but defended what you call the informal wedding is called home legal cohabitation.
I think when you love and that is a responsible person, one assumes.
Now I know many couples who marries and who pretend that all is well ... they sleep in separate rooms, deceives their spouse and stay together for the kids ...
Is that better?
Я на Бульваре Победы ..у якоря погибшим морякам ,где Путин венки возлагает периодически
Oksana
Jean-marie,I hope you will find here a lot of useful information for yourself by reading the views of women of all ages and will help to make the right moves and meet your soul mate)
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