Так в том то и дело,умной и достойной надо пару ближе по возрасту,мне знакомый американец говорил,свои дамы и при 2 годах разницы кричат-староват ты для меня.Сами своих соотечественниц унижаем.

да,он все таки еще хорошо о женщинах думает,раз сомневается,привык,что свои дамы не возьмут абы что.

Somehow, I think you will survive, Nadya!  

Listen, Helga, after reading the (more than a few) complaints about disrespectful men, inconsiderate, unrealistic expectations, little kids in a candy store who can't make up their minds, sit around on Skype in their T-shirts with their tongues hanging out, 85-year old grandpa wants an 18-year old beauty queen...please, I would like to attend your class for men on how to look for a girl. One would think a guy trying to be considerate might be appreciated for his efforts...who is looking for an excuse not marry!?  

I am smilling, because many woman in Ukraine (i do not know about Russia), do not have happiness with man they like. They have material problems, social problems while their man elder 5/6 years staying in front of TV and does not work. Looking the chat i feel most ladies looking for the dreams, they never had.
I had this kind of experience in my life with ex. husband. I must start work when son was 9 mounth, now i am working and my son all time with mom.
For me better to have silence in my family life first, if my men will be more older, i will do all he could be happy and silence next with me.
Any kind of relations - there are many interests, including material, but think not only about sex, lets value men next with you, who help you and your kids, and be grateful for every think you have in your life.
I am not looking for unswer and suppose ladies here will not be angry to me)

Яна, спасибо за Ваш комментарий. Я улыбнулась. Хотелось бы мне посмотреть на многочисленных женщин нашей Украины, которые после сердечных потрясений бегут к психотерапевту))
такие спецы в нашей стране - удовольствие не дешевое и не популярное, поэтому мы все дружно бежим к подружкам, которые за рюмочкой коньячка скажут нам все то, что мы хотим услышать .
Своим комментарием я хотела сказать, что большинство женщин ищут утешения в новых отношениях, которые окрыляют нас и одушевляют, вот в такие моменты - друг с разницей в 20 лет, может стать хорошей поддержкой и другом на всю жизнь. И диалог уже будет начинаться не с оценки возраста, а с необходимости утешения и общения.

Why should a man make decisions for another adult and fully capable person what is good for her? Isn't she capable to decide herself on what makes her happy? Making decisions for adult people as if they were not capable of doing it themselves is ridiculous, isn't it? So the only logical explaination is - the man tries to achieve his own purposes disguising them in a "politically correct" shell.

Oh really, Helga!? When is the last time you knew me to be "politically correct!?"   Also, just what do you think MY purposes are!?  

You know, I took your advice that time and what a valiant effort it was on my behalf; however it was as I had predicted. Girls who ignore guys whom they perceive as "poor" often get exactly what they deserve, which is, more often than not, nothing!   I really like Tatyana's positive attitude and believe she will do very well; perhaps I should ask her if she has a mother who is single!  

"Also, just what do you think MY purposes are!?"

I do not discuss any members of the Forum personally, nor their purposes. I prefer discussing situations.

Sorry to hear about your experience and vain efforts. But all people are not the same, even is they share the same "technical " parameters, such as age, location and the like. It is wrong to make conclusions of the whole group based on one person.

As an example I can tell you one funny story. One office had a problem with its employee who did sewing during her working hours instead of her job responsibilities. They fired her eventually. But when they were searching for a new candidate for that job they asked this quesion at the interview - if the candidate could sew, as they were afraid of reoccurance of the story. Do you think it smart?  

Helga, I think she could knit)))

I know some women who go to work and do their nails! If this is the type of information a business asks during an employee interview, probably the firm is probably doomed to fail from poor management.

Knit at work easier than sewing  

Dear Doug, thank you so much for your nice words about my mom. She is younger than you and married, her husband older her on 10 years ))
When she get married, all her relatives were very upsed of her choise and advised to find another men without divorses, kids and without so much difference in age.
But they are living together more that 20 years and love each ather much.
So, may be because of this life experience i am looking for partner +/- same difference)
Really its great to feel mens life experience, his silence, knowledges and always feel myself small girl, even with my own life experience, work, son and divorse.
In Ukraine i am not so young, but for my men - i am small and funny girl! When he kissing my head - i fell like lost myself)) 

I wrote this because of Elena's other post about men writing to ask if she had a daughter.   Of course we thought those men were rude and inconsiderate; I was mocking these silly men by asking if you had an older mother like yourself who was not married! You are pretty and I like your attitude. I hope some day a special pretty girl will lose herself when I kiss her head and hold her. I smile when I think of this. This is all most men desire in their hearts, that she be thrilled just to be close to him. You are a sweetheart, Tatyana, and your thoughts are beautiful. We all wish you the best.  

Also, never worry about someone on the forum being angry with you. Someone is always angry with me here; never bothers me. Just know who you are and don't worry about others opinions. They don't know you as well as you know you. You are not here to please anyone; you are here to find the guy who causes you to lose yourself and makes you feel alive!  

Doug.. Cuidar bien a los españoles que os irán construirán el tren de alta velocidad..

Not a problem, Victor!

Tanya, very difficult for me to get this sweet picture out of my mind..."For my man, I am a small and funny girl! When he kisses my head, I feel like I lose myself!" ))) Your words create a sweet and precious picture that I will remember a long time. Your man is very lucky! I think this is also what I will hope for...  

about age....
i believe both ladies and gents set age preferences based on their personal comfort level given that they are looking for a partner/a future husband/wife. IMO, it just might feel odd to be pursuited by someone who's older that your folks or kids...
so in general, i'd say respecting set age preferences with a couple-of-years tolerance is a right thing to do.
however, as some already mentioned it here before me... love conquers all, and age difference is not an exception.
it might be a barrier in the beginning, but in the end it's about whether you want to get through it and if you want to put some effort into getting past this age barrier...

I'm looking for an older man, but alas, they look at me like an idiot