Foreigner working in Russia

Steven, it do not depends by women or man. It depends where an hipotetical couple wants to goto live. If I'm a russian woman and I want to go to live abroad with a man in a country I do no t know and I'm clever not an idiot, I should first to know this country! Second: I should like to know this man where he lives, what he does, who he is! You might be anyone in Russia, also one living in a cellar or a married man! Different situation if you want to live in Russia! In this case it's better you visit first woman and Russia.
I repeat: a western man visiting Russia first or even worst a third territory is an uneuseful lost of time and money if woman wants to live where western man lives! It's not a lost of time if this man wants only sex or not stable relationship, because in Russia you can make all sex you want and nobody can recognize you in Russia. You can goto Russia, you can make your sex, nobody knows who you are and nobody disturbs you when you come back!

Ok Canada is the second country like extension. Russia the first.

Нет не видела, но прочитала о нем на местном сайте))) больше чем в Сибири?? ваууууууу)))

I disagree to an extent. I definitely agree that the girl should come to see the man and live for a time before the marriage if at all possible. But that still does not preclude the man from visiting first and it is a useful visit. The important thing in a relationship is not speed, but finding the right person.
Here's an example from my last girlfriend (and only serious relationship since my divorce): we met on this site, communicated, became close. I then visited her in Kharkov. It was a chance to meet her in her own environment, which I want to see. I want to meet her friends, see how she lives, meet her family.
Then she (and her sister) visited briefly a few months later. They flew in to Las Vegas and we also saw LA. This was still just like a vacation, but gave her a chance to see the city and a brief view of the life, as they stayed in my home. Later that year, she came again for 2 months and while we found that she did not want to live here, better to learn now and not after the marriage. This process takes more time, but less chance of a failure.

Condizioni estreme nella sua zona d'inverno! E tanti orsi.

Steven, do you speak Italian? Wow! I don't... 😉

Steven if you goto Russia they do not know you, but an american tourist! I let you imagine which kind of tourist for exemple in a country like Ukraine..
This first. Second: it's a lot better to play at home then outside, if you have good arguments.
Clearly if it's too difficult for russian to have a visa, you have to go. But they should have the same difficulty also after, not only the first time! So why important for you the first time? Not a second time? This is suspicious!  ))))
Third time is always important in all human activities. To whaste time is always bad for both!

You have a lot more chanches of failure going then inviting for love. Not for other kind of relationships where is enough a room and one bed. If you invite woman to you, only with this method you can see if woman can be good for your lifestyle and country!
And often a russian cannot be ok for very differet lifestyles if she is not 20 or 25 years old!

Io non parlo molto Italiano

Any first visit is just that, a first visit. I think impossible to determine if this is the woman you want to marry or the same for her.
It seems to be easier to make several visits in each direction and to also augment this with lots of letters and Skype conversations. The distance does not change the relationship, except for the particulars. Yes, you cannot hold hands while talking on Skype, but this is part of the process.
It is difficult for a Russian to have a visa. Easier it seems for a girl from Ukraine for instance. But if two people wish to meet, they will manage. And having a vacation together does not give enough information to decide to marry. Developing a real relationship takes time. This is not a race. I spent almost two years with my last girlfriend. It was not a waste. We did not end up together but we both learned from it and enjoyed the process even if painful in the end.

But why not do both? This is my point. Visiting the girl first I think helps her and makes her more comfortable. Also sees how the family reacts and he to them.
There is no reason not to visit the girl as far as I can see.

Steve, now you, who had a long term experience of an international relationship and a 10-year marriage, are arguing with a person who never had any.  

This comfort at first visit is all to demonstrate! Where do you go with this woman? What do you do?
You can know actual life of this woman and if you stay there minimum 15 days you can se if she is really free, but she cannot understand anything about you! And she must first!
Please reply: it's more important woman can know you and who you are, or viceversa?
In wich way she knows an american visiting CSI? Useful fo her? Maybe useful only for you, but it is less important because SHE FIRST HAS TO KNOW YOU, IF SHE WANTS TO LIVE WITH YOU IN USA!

Наталья,вы можете сказать на каком сайте? Мне интересно прочитать!

Neither is more important. A relationship goes both ways. And as for what to do there? There is so very much to do. How can anyone say there is nothing to see? Nothing to do? I was busy every day I have been there.
So, no, it is not more important for her to go first. In fact, it is more important for the relationship, from my personal experience, and from every girl I have heard to visit the girl in her homeland first. Only a few rare exceptions to this.
But then, yes, she should also visit. You cannot make a decision on only 1 visit. Impossible.

Which is why I think I am right. 😉

Натусь, как-то не корректно будет с моей стороны.... попробуйте спросить у самого Рэнди))

Steven!Вы очень разумный,понимающий мужчина,терпеливо отстаивающий свой взгляд на некоторые вещи, искренне ЖЕЛАЮЩИЙ найти свою девушку!Надеюсь,все так и будет. 

No but:
1) I do not like to stay in Russia or other CSI countries, Not very comfortable to meet a woman there when I do not know very well places to go.
2) I loose my time going there and I do not like to loose time to goto a place where I shell never live. Surely after, but not first!

Storie! Ho vissuto per 18 anni con una brasiliana e avuto molte piú relazioni internazionali rispetto al caro Steve e soprattutto conosciuto molte piú slave di lui, non una, ma tante! Ed ho piú anni di lui. Per me non ha nessun senso per un europeo andare in Russia a conoscere per primo una donna, ma nessun senso logico! Ho spiegato i motivi. Molte l'hanno capito ma c'è ancora chi non l'ha capito. E le mie considerazioni sono a vantaggio della donna, non dell'uomo che va!

Le mie relazioni con donne sono state di piú lunga durata di quelle che ha avuto Steven. Ci scommetto la camicia.
E sono tutte internazionali. Indonesia, Argentina e Brasile. Conosco molte donne CSI, ma questo non significa che abbia avuto relazioni profonde con tutte, anzi quasi con nessuna, ma non per colpa mia quasi sempre! Finora non ho avuto molta fortuna nella ricerca, ma sono esigente. Non credo che essere esigente sia un difetto. Se mi fosse andata bene la prima che ho incontrato sarei stato estremamente fortunato, ma potrei incontrarne anche 30 prima di trovare quella giusta. Tu cosa fai? Esci per strada e ti va bene il primo che incontri? Ti va bene il primo che contatti qui, se solo ti sposa? Sarebbe grave la cosa, per te, non per me!

It's not right. You know something about a woman in CSI, but woman really nothing about you and your life. In Skype a woman cannot know you, She can only living in Nevada for minimum 15-20 days!

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