Men & women
Are our expectations to high?
Although I am new to this site; the many profiles I have visited have been very interesting. I will read through them completely. I find beautiful women with whom I meet their age requirments, weight, height and everything else and then it shows that they want to live where it is constantly warm. That is fine, but from what I remember about those climates; the men who live there are already going to be able to have the money to find the woman they want or the men aren't generally going to be able to support a woman from another country. Again, not in all cases but a lot of cases. The next thing is that I may see the statement that the woman has not been contacted for a long time. Here is this beautiful woman and her profile is wonderful. Again, I may fit everything she asks for so I contact her. I am fine with not being contacted back, but what are the expectations we have for each other that if we are here for the same reason that we wouldn't contact each other?
I have written several women, a couple who have responded and have said they would like to get to know me and ask to learn more. So I write them and tell them a little more. Now there is nothing bizarre about what I write, nothing that would make me sound like someone to be afraid of; yet I never hear back. Even when we meet someone face to face we know that we need to give someone a little time to get to know each other, at least I would hope. Now we are on-line and we aren't quite sure of who the other person is. Wouldn't we want to give each other a little more time? Again, I am ok with no responses but if there is something that we don't feel is right let the other person know.
There are more examples but the short version of the story is where are our expectations when we are on-line? Don't put all men into one category, and men don't put all women into one category. Ladies, if a western hemisphere man asks you to skype early on, not all are wanting something sexual. A lot of us are wanting to verify that the person we are seeing in the pictures are indeed you. There are to many scam stories that we need verification. A lot of us also find your language beautiful and if you do speak english and we don't speak your language, what better way to start helping each other learn. It is also a better way to develop a relationship if there is one there. Over skype you can hear each other laugh and see each other smile. You can't do that here. So not all motives are bad.
It's just a thought. Oh, one last thing. If you say you are a happy individual and like to smile; make sure you have those pictures on your site, and we should do the same as well.
Have a wonderful day.
Scott
Nadya
Hi, Scott!
I would like to ask one question, If you do not mind - how many letters you are receiving from ladies on this site per day? And how often you respond?
I am asking because of you message I've understood that you only writing messages, not answering on letters that you have received, am i mistaken?
Natalya
Здравствуйте, Скотт! Если я правильно поняла Вашу мысль — Вам не хватает искреннего общения? Мне — тоже. И для меня, честно говоря, загадка, когда человек пишет в своей анкете о том, что хочет честных, искренних отношений, а сам оказывается не готовым к таким отношениям. Для чего мы здесь? Чтобы найти свою половинку. Как ее найти — быть искренним друг с другом. НО. Вы говорите о возможных мошенниках, поэтому так стремитесь в скайп. Понятно. Но в то же время — сколько обманутых здесь женщин, чувствами которых просто поиграли. Видимо в этом причина недоверия к мужчинам. Как это преодолеть? Конечно, общаться дальше, с другими. И нам — женщинам. И вам — мужчинам. Кто ищет — тот всегда найдет
You're welcome Scot!
You are on the site only for a few days and have already met most problems we have here.
I agree in most points. It's necessary to use the skype, it gives me visual perception that is very important. Sometimes everything clears up when corresponding, and sometimes I need visual information. Contacting with one man I saw him trying not to meet my eyes when I asked him more details. Later in conversation my suspicion was confirmed.
"...I remember about those climates; the men who live there are already going to be able to have the money to find the woman they want or the men aren't generally going to be able to support a woman from another country."
I'm sure it can be said generally about all men, not only about those from warm countries. Or will you explain?
Wish you lucky searching.
Val
I don't know the answer to your question, Scott, but I think you have explained the dynamic quite well. My own reaction is to read the answers to the questionnaire very closely; I don't have much interest in externals so I don't usually spend time looking at photos. Sometimes a girl will ask me to check her photos and her profile, and of course I look carefully at that time.
I have Skype registered to my consultancy and use it strictly for client mentoring and coaching. I have never used it for personal acquaintance and concerned about domain leakage. I am more of a direct contact person. Sometimes I give my Facebook because it's more private. When there is optimism for a good connection I will simply travel to meet the girl for a brief encounter, maybe lunch or a museum visit. Possibly cinema or even the Bolshoi. I come and go on the same day so there is no pressure to advance beyond comfort levels for each person. Small investment. It's 3 1/2 hours and about 200 pounds and that makes it for me more effective. The experience of interacting in-person makes it worthwhile. For you there's a much longer journey, so maybe Skype is an option.
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Sometimes I get winks or clip-art, but I don't respond. Sometimes I get something like "Hello", which is difficult to react to also. If things are going nowhere, I stop. On balance however, I suspect that your transparent approach and candour will lead to an early success. I wish you all the very best of good fortune.
Elvira
Он хотел сказать,что барышни 25 лет почему то прерывают общение.Странно,правда?
Он пишет про девушек 25-30 лет???? Они НЕ ХОТЯТ отвечать ему????
Вот я тоже не понимаю этих барышень 25 летних
Это что??? Так трудно ответить ??? Это шутка, ежели што!!!
Я упала в глубокий обморок
Elvira
Это в его требованиях-начиная с 25)))).Насколько я знаю,в случае таких широких границ,начинают писать дамам ближе к нижнему порогу))).
Причем, "красивые" - обязательное условие. Обычных просьба не беспокоить;-)
A very good point Natalya. It is so hard to trust, especially if we have been in one long term relationship where we have only trusted that one person. Or if we have been on-line and have been scammed, or anything else. I read a post in a different area just a little earlier where someone from I believe it was Germany asked why women do not like to Skype right away. I believe there are several differences. One, it is definitely an age thing. For him and maybe me, I am not from a generation where we wrote e-mails or letters in order to get to know someone. We had no other real choice but to see them face to face. So for me it is a matter of being able to see someone. You can tell so much from the look on someones face, even if the language barrier is difficult. The other reason is that being scammed thing. If I, or the other person on the other end isn't who the pictures we have showing, it is going to tell us something immediately. However, at the same time, there are a lot of men out there that are not wanting to skype for the same reason as I do, and there is no way of knowing. It is a terrible situation for all of us to be in. But in order to find that possible perfect relationship, we have to decide who to take a chance on. It is hard isn't it?
Sorry it took me so long to respond Nadya, I do not come back to the wall very often. So the first question on how many letters am I receiving? As of yesterday I started to recieve many more. Up until that point I was maybe receiving one or two, and I responded to all of them. I will get around to responding to all of them one way or another. Even if there isn't an interest I do believe it is proper to at least acknowledge the letter. On the second point, I was the only one writing in the beginning and was not getting responses. However, I am finding that I do write, get a response will write again and not hear back. However, I understand also that there are how many thousands of people here on the site and that is just a part of it. I am old enough that I understand this is the way things happen. However i think part of my initial point is that we all just need to be patient if there is someone we get to know. To base an initial feeling off of what we see on numbers or a possible initial e-mail is pretty quick. But that is coming from someone who is very knew to this. Coming from one culture to trying to get to know someone from another culture is a new world. I am trying to read and understand the Ukraine/Russian cultures and am finding it very interesting on how things differ so much in expectations. So we all need to have patience..
Emma,
I think you got it right. I just responded to someone where I said almost the exact same thing. Even if the language barrier is difficult at best; you should be able to tell by someones facial expressions or eyes if they are going to be who they say they are. Maybe not all of the time, but in most cases you can.
As far as the men from the warm climates are concerned, first let me be the first to say that if I was from a climate where it was very cold, I would be the first to want to live on the beach somewhere as well. However; with a few exceptions the people who do live in those climates are traditionally very wealthy or they are very poor. There is not much middle ground. The very poor are very very poor. The extremely rich more often than not do not live there full time. A lot of the time women are more disposable. If they want a woman, they will find one in the travels they take monthly or weekly. The chances of someone with that kind of money being here are slim, not to say that they aren't, but they are more than likely going to be having friends introducing them at parties. The parties all of us dream of attending. Don't give up hope, anything is possible.
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Now, do some have that money? Yes; are they going to freely admit at any time that they have that money? Not a chance. I could have a very nice home in the ski resorts here in Colorado, and several other homes; but if you saw me today writing this, or on the street you wouldn't give me a second look. You would see me in a Chevrolet Pick-up, in shorts and a beat up t-shirt. The business I own requires me to get dirty. But I am not going to dress up on my time off just to impress myself. So most people won't say anything, or try to impress you. So you don't know.
However, you do need to be looking in someones eyes, more than once. If nothing else it is a good way for you to practice another language and see if they are serious about learning your language. Communications can't be a one way street.
I was just a little late on getting back to the page Nadya... I hope some of the answers will help give you more insite. Sounds as if you may be a little leery of the whole process????
Wow, I had to actually go back and see if I actually wrote about 25-30 year old girls. Glad I didn't. Had me worried that I didn't know what I wrote about for a moment...........
No, it took me a minute to figure out where the 25-30 year old thing was coming from. However, I have no need to die in bed, even with a smile on my face. I also have no need to have someone I have nothing in common with around. If I want that I will ask my daughter to come hang out with me.
At the same time, I know what I do not want.
You will have to see the last response regarding the 25 y/o thing. I'll hang out with my daughter if I want to be around a girl i have nothing in common with.... On the other hand, I can pretty much say that I won't have what I had in the past either.
Natalya
Да, Скотт, трудно, но не стоит оставлять поиск и надежду. Как выбрать? Как поверить? Наверное нужно слушать свое сердце (и звать в скайп своего собеседника для "живого" общения) Удачи Вам!
Мужчина английским языком говорит, что не указывал он таких требований.
I think a lot of people (men and women) would prefer the climate of say, San Diego, but I'm sure if you find your love, she/he will be willing to move anywhere. Being a Colorado native myself, I can't imagine many women wouldn't like it there, even with the snow. If a woman insisted she'd only marry me if we lived in Miami, for example, I would question how genuine her feelings were.
I think a lot of women are hesitant to move to Skype for several reasons. There are some creepy men that are just looking for a peep show and the language barrier can sometimes be awkward. When writing letters, you can at least use a translator, even if the results aren't that great. I don't know if you've tried it, Scott, but the chat function here is pretty useful. It has a translator and you can message with each other in real time. It's a nice middle ground between writing letters and Skype.
I think Skype is definitely a good tool to use and should be a natural progression as individuals are trying to learn more about each other but I also understand why some women can be hesitant about it, especially early on in communication.
Несколько раз прочитала перевод - ГДЕ Вы прочитали про девушек 25-30 лет? Он написал, что барышни просили его написать более подробное письмо - он написал, а в ответ - ТИШИНА.А еще про скайп. Лично я в последнее время предпочитаю сразу увидеть собеседника в скайпе. По крайней мере - видно лицо. А то на сайте 1 фото - не пойми какое, да и с возрастом своим мужчины любят поиграть...А если уж общаешься - даже через переводчика - всегда видна реакция на послание. По эмоциям, по реакции многое можно узнать. А тех, кто желает показать свои части тела - просто удалить и заблокировать.
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