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Ok, Sie haben schon eine Frau. Stammt sie aus einem reichen Land?
Dadurch, dass Sie diesen Beitrag veröffentlicht haben, möchten Sie Anderer Männer abraten die Frauen aus armen Ländern zu heiraten. Stimmt es?
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Reply to Christoph on View the commented commentPraktiyiert Ihre Frau, die Sie schon lange her gefunden haben, Hypergamie auch?
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Reply to Christoph on View the commented comment
"vielleicht habe ich mich unpräszise ausgedrückt"
Es wird so gewesen sein. Dann was ist Definition "Hypergamie"? Was versteht man darunter? Bedeutet es, dass Frauen streben nach Suche der Partner mit hoheren sozialen Status, als ihre eigene?
Sie haben vollkommen Recht, sozialer Status meines Ehemannes entsprach meinen dermaligen Status (zu dem Zeitpunkt, als wir geheiratet haben). Ich muss zugeben, dass wegen meines Umzuges nach Deutschland, verschlechterte ich meinen persönlichen vor allem beruflichen Status. Ich habe diese Gelegenheit erkannt, aber ich hatte andere Priorität, und zwar Familie und Beziehunge. Könnte man mich dadurch für eine unkluge Frau halten?
Galina
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Reply to Christoph on View the commented commentWenn Sie nicht auf der Suche nach einer Frau sind, warum haben Sie diesen Beitrag geschrieben ?
In the discussion on the Life goes on . . . in the forum Men & women . Number of comments: 48
Reply to Ridvan on View the commented commentAbsolutely right Ridvan .
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Dann sehen wir uns das mal logisch an und jetzt werde ich zynisch reden.
Eigentlich ist es so einfach:
- niemand will schlechter leben als er vorher lebte (sowohl Frauen als auch Männer). Wenn eine Frau im ihren Land einen bestimmten (oft hohen) sozialen Status verfügt, möchte sie ihn nicht verloren oder lieber verbessern.
- diejenigen, die finanzielle Probleme haben, möchten bzw. könnten sie mithilfe der Ehe lösen.
Warun nicht?
Es gibt bei uns (in der armen Ukraine) ein folgendes Sprichwort: "Der Fisch sucht, wo es tiefer ist, und der Mensch sucht, wo er sich wohler empfindet".
Jedoch existiert auch das Liebe, nicht jede Frau einverstanden ist einen beliebigen Mann zu heiraten, selbst wenn er aus einem reichen Land kommt.
In the discussion on the Life goes on . . . in the forum Men & women . Number of comments: 48
Reply to Tatyana on View the commented commenta man or woman should ask himself the question: does the opposite sex have enough positive qualities to accept you into your life?
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"Автор темы хочет найти женщину, которая приедет к нему с деньгами и сделает счастливым. А нужно ли это женщине?"...
Нет , Зоя , он так не говорит ...он хотел бы отношения в этой сфере 50_50 , чтобы каждый из супругов работал , и задаёт вопрос : может ли мужчина быть любим если он финансово не обеспечивает женщину ? Да , может . Теоретически и практически . Привела ему пример из личных отношений . Но эти отношения для некоторых людей ведут "в никуда " . Потому что в 30 лет многим уже не достаточно "просто любить " , как 18 лет . Появляется второстепенный вопрос : "как" любить ....
Как-то я слышала за одну книгу , тема которой "5 языков любви" ....вот в ней описывает автор разные способы проявления любви , один из которых финансовая забота мужчины о его женщине . Надо будет найти почитать .
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I agree with you Galina. Each person is different. With one we lose something. With the other we have something else. That we didn't have. Etc ...
You must know how to forget the past. Its not always easy. Especially when we really loved the other.
Zoya
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Закон рынка: спрос и предложение
Автор темы хочет найти женщину, которая приедет к нему с деньгами и сделает счастливым. А нужно ли это женщине?
Эта женщина тоже имеет право выбирать, кто лучше для нее и кто сделает ее счастливым.
У нас есть опыт, который не позволяет прыгать в первый пришедший поезд, но это не означает, что мы безнадежны
Christoph
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Reply to Liudmila on View the commented comment
Ganz genau, fragen Sie sich doch selbst mal kritisch, warum Sie wirklich einen Mann aus dem westlichen Ausland suchen. Warum schauen Sie denn nicht in Afrika oder Südost-Asien? Das gibt´s auch Männer.
Was bewegt osteuropäische Frauen, in der westlichen Welt Männer zu suchen?
Christoph
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Reply to Galina on View the commented commentIch suche hier keine Frau mehr. Ich hbae schon lange eine Frau!
Christoph
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Reply to Elena on View the commented commentElena, es ist nicht Ihr Fehler, aber Sie kennen nicht das deutsche Scheidungsrecht. Im Übrigen spreche ich von armen und reichen Ländern und habe nie etwas von Deutschland oder Russland gesagt. Deutschland ist selbst mittlerweile sehr arm.
Christoph
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Reply to Natalia on View the commented commentIch habe niemals gesagt, dass Russland ein armes Land ist. Leider ist Deutschland ein armes Land. Meine Frage war generell gestellt. Die große Aufregung ist lediglich, dass Frauen nicht zugeben können, dass sie Hypergamie praktizieren. Alle Frauen weltweit!
Christoph
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Reply to Alina on View the commented comment
Pure Provokation. Ich habe längst eine Frau gefunden. Ich wundere mich, was hier alles in meine Aussage hineininterpretiert wird. Deutschland ist kein reiches Land und Russland kein armes Land. Offenbar scheint das hier der Glaube zu sein.
Und Hypergamie ist ein sozialwissenschaftlich erforschtes Selektionsverhalten von Frauen, weltweit. Dasmit sind nicht nur russ. Frauen gemeint.
Christoph
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Reply to Elena on View the commented commentI didn´t refer to Russian, the Ukraine, or Belarus as a poor country. Neither did I call Germany a rich country. I was asking a question in general. That´s all your interpretation. I did find a woman a long time ago. I am not looking for anyone here.
Christoph
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Reply to Liudmila on View the commented comment
Hallo Liudmila, vielleicht habe ich mich unpräszise ausgedrückt: Hypergamie praktizieren alle Frauen weltweit. Es ist ein Selektionsverhalten, welches natürlich nicht nur Russische/Ukrainische Frauen betrifft. Sicher haben Sie hier in Deutschland auch keinen Mann unterhalb Ihres eigenen sozialen Status´ geheiratet oder suchen solch einen Mann, oder?
Sie wissen vielleicht, dass in Deutschland 3 Millionen Frauen fehlen (in der Altersgruppe 25 - 45 Jahre). Das macht die Suche für Männer hier wirklich nicht einfach. Aber ich suche nicht mehr...das Problem hat sich mittlerweile erledigt!
Christoph
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Reply to Zoya on View the commented commentHallo Zoya, no, unfortunately we have a lack of 3 million women in Germany. Not every man will be able to find a woman.
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Chris ,
I certainly understand what you mean to feel isolated and not knowing how to spent the time.
I felt like that when I was in the military (in my own country) - and it was not my own choice of free will.
I was drafted and so I had to go -
But you know , I tried to make the best of it.
I saw (big) young men cry , because they really were feeling homesick and unsure.Young men from whom I had never expected that.
If you are a man then act like a man ...
And so I tried to cheer him up and had many conversations with him.
But in the end he just couldn't get a grip on himself and on the situation - and he was discharged from duty with a medical code on his military passport.
In fact it meant that he had psychological and mental problems.
But believe me I really had a hard time in the beginning (after 6 months you get used to it).
Learning a foreign language is not something that you do only for yourself.
If you want to have a happy relationship with a woman from another country with a different background and culture.
And I don't say that you should move and live in her country.
And I ask myself , if you knew that you were staying in Turkey for some months why then didn't you buy a Turkish - English vocabulary ??
Or what about Google translate ?
The way I see it : love is a universal language ...
There is a difference in not understanding someone or you don't speak her language.
You can fall in love with someone and you will understand each other when you 2 are in love.
It is a different matter if the both of you would want to have a conversation ...
But with gestures , a piece of paper and a pen you can go a long way.
If it is responsible that is for you 2 to decide ...
Galina
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Reply to Stephan on View the commented commentРазвод ,уход из семьи любимого человека - это всегда больно и неприятно . Но нельзя зацикливаться на этом , нельзя идти в новые отношения , принося в них боль от предыдущих . Потому , что все люди разные . С одним вышло так , с другим будет иначе . Хотя , по моим наблюдениям , люди склонны выбирать определённый тип партнёра и не могут уйти от клише
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Почему то мне в последнее время приходит мысль, что то о чем вы пишите
В некоторой степени а иногда и становится обратной стороной медали.
Человек самодостаточен, счастлив, или более или менее удовлетворен тем что он и как он сейчас. От сюда комфорт, привычка и пр...
И вот так из месяца в месяц, из года в год.
И ему становится может быть сложнее, или все меньше желания, доля пассивности, возможно даже эгоизм, или еще что то... Что бы начать менять свое положение одиночки, найти партнера для жизни и создавать семью
Может быть это какая то функция в нас притупляется?
Chris
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Reply to Christoph on View the commented commentAh yes...videos made to pander to incels about "shit tests" and the "social ladder", anything to deflect blame for a man's poor social adjustment and insecurity. My brother loves these videos too, and loves throwing out silly catch phrases like "your mother is the only woman who will ever truly love you!" Christoph, I'll be blunt. you have two choices here. You can continue to pretend to be a victim, blaming women for your own poor choices, or you can make the difficult choice to accept that women have not chosen you because you have not shown them the character of a man worth marrying, and find ways to improve. You may love videos and conversations such as these, since they tell you lies that you agree to and find comfort in, but I promise that you will never be happy if you don't change. Your posts here and your profile point to a bitter man who is lacking self-esteem and confidence, but with a very fragile ego. That's a dangerous combination and the early stages of radicalization. In my experience, women don't want a rich man so much as they want a man who is confident, willing and able to be a leader. If you show a weak will and constantly seek approval for every action, you will be exposed immediately and women will move on. These are obvious signs of emotional fragility and women are not stupid, they can see through these undesirable acts better than I can. Nobody owes you anything - no woman should have to suffer the behavior of a man who cannot act like a man and take responsibility for his actions. My guess is also that you only seek the prettiest women, like an 8/10 on the "scale" that incels love, and that beauty is the only trait you value in women. I challenge you to see through this and find 3 things that make a woman nice to talk to, and based on that, try to find someone who you can actually relate to. I think you hate women and you can't understand them, because you've never been in a position to truly connect with someone based on character. You are the only person who can help yourself here, and being toxic is a choice. I implore you to look deep inside your soul to understand your weakness and vulnerabilities, and to find healthy ways to move forward in life, because this just isn't it.
Zoya
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Christoph,
you can only hear yourself, this topic doesn't make sense.
I think you are on the wrong site.
In the discussion on the Life goes on . . . in the forum Men & women . Number of comments: 48
Reply to Tatyana on View the commented comment
I understand you perfectly. Human beings are like that. power hungry. See ever higher. Higher than you can imagine. Do not show weakness. belittle your partner.
It is easier to do evil than good. It's easier to say I don't want to. I do not want . What to say, Come into my arms. Come hug me because I want to.
To me you demean people by saying this. You wrote ... If it is hard for you to financially provide a future wife or bride, then it is better to look for love among your compatriots, woman from your country ...
Again ... it's money. Money has a lot of power.
In the discussion on the первый визит in the forum Meeting in real life . Number of comments: 110
Эдите своего,пускай появится такой,который захочет для вас сделать что нибудь,а на шею сесть и в нашей стране много желающих!!!
Christoph
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Wake up, Chris:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8aT6uE3QFs
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Reply to Stephan on View the commented comment
A man who cannot afford to provide a woman financially - this man can also love and be loved... But you may to understand... The perception of love by an 18 year old's girl is very different from the perception of love by a 30 year old woman.... I will give an example from a personal example: about 10 years ago I loved a man who could not afford to provide me financially .... could not, or he did not work enough for this...
Yes, it was fun, cool, comfortable and romantic with him, as if I was 18 years old, although I was already under 30 then, but this "condition of love" was not enough for me at my age , already... With all my deepest love for him, I left him after 2 years of relationship. Because it did not correspond to my main priority, which formed over time with me when choosing a partner for life: my man should provide me financially, and only one love as a foundation is not enough for me...( Having worked in the office from sunrise to sunset, I realized that I did not want to work, I want to do myself, my favorite things, hobbies, home, husband. I want to meet my husband from work in a good mood, and not tired and squeezed after work like a lemon. This does not mean that I am lazy. I will be happy to work if my husband, for example, opens a small shop selling coffee and chocolate for me to make me more happy than I am now...) But you should understand: this work will be like a hobby for me, for the soul, where I am my own.
If you read the forum, you will understand that not all women are like me... Many are willing and wanting to work in a new country after they get married. Therefore, I believe: who seeks- will finds. But everything needs to be discussed , and if there is true love, then compromises will be found by themselves in 70% of cases.
I didn’t just give an example about my friend... With this example, I wanted to say that you need to match the partner, as well as really weigh your capabilities and desires. If it is hard for you to financially provide a future wife or bride, then it is better to look for love among your compatrios , woman from your country. You should understand , that bringing a foreign bride is even more expensive than looking among your own. In addition, do you realize that self-respecting woman will run from the plane's trap upon arrival to work in your country ? She needs to be taught, she needs help, she needs to be given financial support , 1st... In your profile, you indicated the income level as "good." I suppose that then no difficulties should arise at all if there is a sincere desire to bring a foreign bride.
With respect , Tanya.
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Reply to Elena on View the commented commentOkay for the poor. But I personally know poor women who have met rich men. I do not know a rich woman who seeks poor men.
Zoya
In the discussion on the Life goes on . . . in the forum Men & women . Number of comments: 48
It's very important to be happy with yourself, to be happy every day and to enjoy every day.
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Reply to Stephan on View the commented commentБогатые богатеют вместе, бедные беднеют в одиночку, ну вот и логический вывод нарисовался, и никакой философии не надо.







