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Doug, 67 y.o.

United States

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Back to big age differences

Some time ago, Helga posted the subject of couples with large age differences. At the time, I listened to the discussion with reservations. Many claim older men and younger women may mix for a while, but no long-term good can come from these matches; that is until a neighbor comes home with some striking young beauty half his age, who seems crazy in love and oblivious to age. When money is involved, this is dismissed as superficial and financially motivated, but that theory becomes problematic there is no money and the interest appears honest and genuine. Then what!?



Many western men have deluded themselves into believing Slavic women will marry the village idiot, regardless of age, just to have some sort of man and move to the west. I find that insulting. Perhaps that is why he is the village idiot! Here in the US, I have seen many beautiful Slavic girls who married far beneath themselves. Some were very happy; others developed a chronic eye-rolling condition.

Older men enjoy receiving attention from some entrancing young babe. I do not think young girls typically have a sincere desire to spend their lives with someone old enough to be their father; however, the other day I discovered a blog discussion on this very subject. Surprisingly, I read over 11 pages written by sincere people who had wonderful marriages with age differences of 25-30 years. Honestly, I was quite surprised. Successful relationships with wide age differences must be possible, but are they practical?

I must ask, if a man truly loves a young woman, can he embrace her knowing he may only be able to give her 20 or so good years, before becoming a burden on her? If true love wishes the best for the other, would he not exercise wisdom, make a difficult decision, cause her short term grief to spare her possible long-term regrets? Should he not love her more than his own desires, and do the best for her?

Older men who fall in love with younger women must consider much. Even if she is very open with her feelings, sometimes difficult for a man to believe he could actually be the object of her desire and love; however, these things are not impossible. All relationships have problems; all demand much work and self-sacrifice, regardless of differences. With large age gaps, perhaps it takes more to convince an older man that love is possible. Perhaps the less conventional the circumstances, maybe the harder to understand, but certainly any genuine love is good love. What do you ladies think?

PS: Often you women think we men are a bit “juvenile”; I can only smile, but I admit nothing! But I have talked here with women, much younger than me, and told them maybe she would think I am too young for her!  ))))) (Next week we will discuss GLOBAL WARMING)

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Victor

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Olga,nadie te apuntó en esta web a punto de pistola.Si buscas pareja aquí dentro o en el extranjero,deberías tener más claros que beneficios e inconvenientes tienen este tipo re relaciones. TODOS QUEREMOS SER FELICES Y COMER PERDICES Y VIVIR CUENTOS ROMANTICOS DE PRINCIPES Y PRINCESAS...PERO CON EL TIEMPO HAY QUE MADURAR Y SER REALISTAS.EL MUNDO NO ES PERFECTO Y TODOS TENEMOS QUE ADAPTARNOS A LAS NORMAS DEL. JUEGO.


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Nadezhda


и еще. У каждой женщины стоят конкретные возрастные рамки и другие предпочтения. Как Вы думаете Doug,почему мужчины гораздо выше означенного возраста продолжают мне писать??? Это что невнимание, неуважение, пренебрежение мне как женщине?
Я пытаюсь быть очень корректной с ними. Пишу "извините", "прошу прощения", "желаю удачи".
А мне пишут, что я невоспитанная, что мое поведение позор для их страны, если я просто молчу и не отвечаю(((
Я боюсь, что на меня начнут писать жалобы(((

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Helga, 44 y.o.

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"I must ask, if a man truly loves a young woman, can he embrace her knowing he may only be able to give her 20 or so good years, before becoming a burden on her? If true love wishes the best for the other, would he not exercise wisdom, make a difficult decision"

Women cannot make decisions and choices about their lives themselves and need "male wisdom" to decide for them? Doug in all his patriarchal glory!


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Lyudmila

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Я бы подписалась на его канал, и думаю у него было бы огромное число подписчиц


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Olga

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и к каким стандартам вы предлагаете приспособиться?
лично мне нравятся стандарты жизни жены британского офицера.


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Olga

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жалобы не напишут... пускай лучше ваш профайл внимательно читают.


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Victor

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Pues yo te propongo que te cases con un oficial británico.


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Victor

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Hola...algo parecudo me ocurre a mi.Cada vez que escribo un poco,me escriben mujeres,que si leyeran bien mi perfil,verían que no son el tipo de mujer que busco...


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Nadezhda

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Ольга, я так и написала - "прочтите , пожалуйста, внимательно мою анкету". На что и получила ответ , что мое поведение позор , что продолжительность жизни в их стране гораздо выше, чем в России, что я плохо воспитана и никогда не встречу никого с такими запросами. При чем слово "позор" встречается уже в сообщении от 3 мужчин. Я понимаю, что скорее всего это такой перевод , но в первый раз очень напряглась.
Вообще хочу сказать, что некоторые мужчины с ходу пытаются меня строить и учить жизни. Это меня удивляет и смешит.

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Doug, 67 y.o.

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Hope, I do not know why some men do not follow the rules or take loud hints. Perhaps this is a type of arrogance they have developed, maybe thinking the sun rises and sets on their world alone.

Men with poor interpersonal skills and courtship strategies sometimes attempt what I call the guilt trip. Never sign up for these little tours. This is a lousy technique which they have probably learned from my ex-wife! (Maybe she is now giving online classes and these are her students!) I never signed up for her tours, either!  ))

When I first came here, many young women (as young as 28-years old) sent messages and had very kind words for me. I was flattered! Some of these wonderful ladies are still my friends here today. When I had more time, I always enjoyed talking and being a friend. (That is okay on a dating site, right!? We do not always have to talk business, do we!?) Sometimes they ask my opinions; sometimes I ask theirs. I have often found this an important resource; if there is a cultural misunderstanding, nice to be able to contact a female friend and ask, “What in the heck is this crazy woman talking about!!!?” Also, one never knows when something they say will encourage another or even be the friendly word they needed that day. Many people here with broken hearts and difficult lives. Everyone deserves kindness and understanding. It is alright to simply be a friend sometime, isn’t it? Isn’t it!? Not always necessary to kiss and hold hands!?

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Never feel you must respond to these old guys. On your profile, you clearly posted the rules; you have acted responsibly! Many psychological explanations for why men do this. Not enough time to cover it all here, but the result is the same; you aren’t interested and the reason is irrelevant. There are plenty of girls here and they will eventually get the idea...just not always right away. No need to plan some exotic exit strategy; just keep hitting your ignore button; sometimes have to hit it many times; sometimes more effective if you also roll your eyes!

By now you must have realized that being an attractive woman with a nice personality, men find this attractive. We say this goes with the territory. Do not be offended; consider it a complement when they do not go down after the first punch. We both know men have very dense skulls and sometimes not easy to penetrate! Try to accept this is all part of the cross you must bear for being who you are!

Honestly, young, beautiful women your age have written me with complements and nice words since I arrived here. When I responded, out of courtesy, some quickly made it clear they would never feel comfortable in a relationship with blah, blah, blah... I used the same advice I gave you. Hit the ignore button and roll my eyes; sometimes even stick out my tongue!  ))) This works for me! Maybe I do not have this problem so much because I am old and not so attractive. Part of the cross I must bear!

Your story is understandable, but I have heard far worse stories from others; especially after Skype becomes part of the equation. I understand why some girls don’t like Skype; something to do with the physical impossibility of reaching through the screen and ripping some guy’s face off. Skype is maybe not the best method to get to know someone in the beginning. Chat here on the site is nice. These are just my thoughts; I am no expert.

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Doug, 67 y.o.

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Victor! Victor! Victor! No need to roughly explain and insult their reading or comprehension skills by asking them why they did not read your profile; be gracious and thank them for their kind words. Makes you look good to be a gentleman. Stop listening to Tom! His methods don't work for him, either!!! By the way! Any idea when he will be returning? I probably need to sharpen up my clippers after shearing all those sheep last year!

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Doug, 67 y.o.

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Okay, I just thought of something, Hope. Whenever they intrusively try to teach you about life, in your sweetest little girl voice, simply say, thank you very much Grampa!!! (Even I would not know how to respond to that!!!)


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Olga

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это их личные проблемы. и их личные фантазии.
мне кстати тоже писали, что я никого не найду - только из-за характера. и даже то, что ко мне никто больше не приедет, бери что есть, дура, не выпендривайся...

"Уж лучше голодать, чем что попало есть;... Быть лучше одному, чем с кем попало. ... "


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Olga

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я над этим работаю. Причем Великобритания не абсолют в качестве страны проживания. Главное чтоб муж не ставил в главу угла страдания и чистку сортиров на нелегальной работе.


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Nadezhda

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Виктор))) и как Вы с ними боретесь?)))


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Nadezhda

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Я одному написала, что мой папа на год моложе , а выглядит лет на 10 лучше, чем этот представитель страны долгожителей))) Мне в ответ пришло 5 смс с кучей восклицательных знаков)))


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Nadezhda

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Ольга, так получается они себя не считают "кем попало", а очень даже подходящей парой для меня )))
И почему-то эти мужчины очень истеричные, подолгу пишут смс с нравоучениями . Когда мое терпение заканчивается и я им открыто пишу "Отвянь дядя" мне приходит гневливое длинное письмо о том какая невоспитанная , не леди, не достойна жить в его стране)))


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Victor

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Olga...te parezco una Celestina??.que siiii.que ya dejaste claro laa dos veces anteriores,que tu interés principal es encontrar esa cartera llena...y ya despues,te ocuparas de ser feliz.
Pero repito...te equivocas,preguntándome a mi.
Yo,tengo prioridades distintas a ti:prioritario amor y nivel económico es secundario.


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Victor

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Doug,Doug,Doug....para tratar a cualquiera,existe el chat y este foro...si se dedican a escribirte privadamente,que se lean bien el perfil de quien escribe.
En tal caso,yo ya soy de la opinión de que debería de tener cada persona,la posibilidad de vetar o no,a quien no coincide cin su búsqueda.


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Olga

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Любовь приходит и уходит, а кушать хочется всегда


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Victor

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Se más sincera:TU AMOR VIENE Y VA,SEGÚN EL TAMAÑO DE LA CARTERA DE TU PAREJA.
Ya te dije,que te equivocas conversando conmigo.
Tienes muchos militares,Ejecutivos,funcionarios por ahí sueltos...
Yo,respeto tu postura,pero no la comparto.
Yo,comparto la de tu amiga que vino a España y encontró su pareja.... Y entendió que amar...es estar al lado de quien quieres en los buenos y malos momentos.
Pero repito,es mi opinión,es lo que yo busco y,espero que tú,tambien respetes mi opinión.

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Yana, 43 y.o.

Ukraine

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Абстрактная продолжительность жизни в стране ничего не говорит,если конкретный мужчина выглядит хуже,чем женщина,которой он пишет.Его идея,что его страна его основное преимущество явно может привлечь только мошенниц.В реальных отношениях важны его личные качества.

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Elena, 61 y.o.

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А я вот не могу так резко. Предпочитаю мягкие завуалированные намёки, и это действует лучше, точно. И при том - вежливо, и даже мило.


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Olga

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Виктор, если для вас здравый рассудок = меркантильности, на здоровье. Главное чтоб Вам легче жилось в психологическом плане.

P.S. Я правильно поняла, девушка должна приехать к Вам, в Испанию?


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Irina

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Так есть простая и очень без истеричная тактика. Если мужчина не нравится по каким либо критериям, то зачем доводить его до истерики и чтобы начал писать женщине гадости. Нужно немного потерпеть написав ему несколько писем ну совсем не о чем. Постепенно он сам тихо и спокойно отвалится сам. Ему будет просто с вами не интересно и он сам уйдет к другой)))


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Victor

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Olga,tras la ausencia de Tom... Te aburres mucho,¿verdad?.En este post..se habla sobre el amor y si puede existir cuando existe en la pareja diferencia de edad.
No es necesario que te preocupes por mi... Hay un hombre por tres mujeres en España..sigo conociendo gente aquí... Soy chico tranquilo que busca chica sencilla..ahora estoy en otra web donde trató francesas,italianas,croatas,serbias..hasta turcas...
No te preocupes por mi...ah,ni por España..todos nos conocemos en la UE...me llevó bien con Bosnias....preguntan cuando volverán las tropas españolas... no me gusta que sepan más que yo de series españolas.
En fin...que no me aburro..
Saludos


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Olga

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а зачем?
с нами мужчины как-то не церемонятся. зачем этот марлезонский балет?


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Irina

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Так если не хочется истерики долго слушать...)))

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Yana, 43 y.o.

Ukraine

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Надежда,сейчас вспомнилось по случаю)))."Воспитанная женщина никогда не скажет: «Пошел ты на…», она скажет: «Я вижу вы далеко пойдете"

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Anna, 59 y.o.

Russia

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Олюшка, обидела испанского парня...Вспоминается песня Лозы

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