I seek advice
Documental confirmation of a medical diploma
Happy New Year! Tell me, please, who knows, what is the validation process to confirm the dimloma of a doctor and "specialization" in Europe? I'm psychiatrist. It would be also interesting to talk to people at the same profession. Thank you.
Happy New year to you as well. Each country in tyhe EU has its own regulations and requirements comcerning the recognition of the diplomas. Depending on the country that you want to live you should check with the authorities. Usually it involves a list of course that you had at your university in order to compare them with the course of the EU country. After that if there are differences it may require for you to give exams and/ or follow a few courses at the EU university.
Thank you. Do you know people who've done it and works?
Olga
Екатерина, здравствуйте. Накануне нового года мне из испанского министерства образование пришло письмо, что они мне подтвердят мой диплом при условии, что я сдам экзамен по одной психологической дисциплине. У меня диплом государственного белорусского ВУЗа по специальности "Психолог, преподаватель психологии и узкая специализация "Психология семейных отношений". Правда согласно испанским законам они могут подтвердить только ОДНУ специальность, в моем случае это "Психолог" (без "Преподаватель психологии и узкой специализации"). Впринципе это тоже хорошо. На ведь процесс у меня есть 4 года (так нам сказали в Министерстве, когда мы туда позвонили). Сейчас буду узнавать, как, где и каким образом я могу сдать экзамен. И............. Поскольку мой испанский все еще далек от совершенства, то придется приложить достаточно усилий, чтобы изучить испанский психологический . Но я уже начала потихоньку просматривать статьи и материалы по необходимому мне предмету. Вам удачи.
Ekaterina ,
A very Happy New Year to you also.Like the other poster said , it is different , with European countries.
I don`t want to dim your hopes , but in my country , it is now a problem , for students , in the psychology/psychiatry , to find a proper job.
If they can find work , in their field of study.In general , the past years , it is more difficult , for persons , with a higher education , to find a job , in their branch.
At the moment , there is a big demand , for people in the technical branches.
Like in the IT sector , technical jobs in the steel industry , and in some medical and health branches.
As you know , the crisis ,had a big impact , in the available jobs.And it forced the government , and the industries , to cut back , on the (overall) costs.
This led , to the bankruptcy , of many companies , and thus the un-employment , did rise significantly , in my country.
For many years now , office buildings , and retailer shops , have been closed , and are for rent.
In the medical and the health sector , jobs have been cut , and for many years now , the costs for medical care , must go down.
This means , that the government , is not subsidizing , all medical treatments now.
We , the people , must pay more to get additional treatment.So , then you will understand , what will happen.
Many don`t go to the doctor , for small or little things.
Also the health insurance companies , must bring down , their costs , for medical treatments.In order to do this , they force the hospitals , to cut on their costs , also.
In fact , this means , that people will get fired , or will not be replaced , when they go with a retirement.
And so , the workload , in the medical branch , is very , very high!!!!
On top , of this all , there are now , people from Portugal , Spain and Greece , who come here to work.
And , then I don`t mention , those persons from Great Britain and other EU countries.
But , like the saying goes , "if you don`t dare , you will not win" .
So , make inquiries at the embassy , of the country , where you would like to go.
Good luck
Eric
Thank you. In Russia the situation the same from the antiant times. Without any crisis. We have different crisis every day and our government don't want to subsidizing psychiatry. Psychiatry is not insurance medicine, it is self-sufficient.Russian people more hard then somebody thinks If to confirm the psychology education will take abou 4-5 years as Olga said, to confir psychiatry - I think about 10 (or more) years, and for 10 years a lot can change for better or worse, and may not be changed. Working people in Russia are accustomed to a permanent state of fear and expectation of trouble I think this is what Russian wives can teach European husbands don't worry about crisis )))
Ekaterina ,
I strongly would suggest , to reconsider your last advice : " I think this is what Russian wives can teach European husbands don't worry about crisis " .
I can tell you , that many couples , in my country , did divorce , because of the crisis.The man or woman , or both , have lost their job.
And their monthly income , is not enough , to pay all the bills.
When they have children , the situation , is a bit more dramatic.I know , that many couples , had to sell their house , because they could not pay the mortgage , anymore.
So , the bank , put the house up , for auction.In many cases , this will result , that the house is sold , for much lower price.
Than when the couple bought the house.Also , the past 5 years , the prices (and value) of the houses , were going down!
So , people , who had bought a house , just before the start of the crisis , were in a real bad luck!
It is common knowledge , that some families , were put out of their house.Because the bank wanted to auction the house.
And they had no place to go.Some were taking shelter , in a caravan (they use it , to go on holiday).
Others , had some relatives , who could help them.
Also some churches , did offer , to give families , some shelter.So , the crisis , was and is , a real worry , for a great part , of the working people here.
Our economy , is still very fragile.Our government , is trying , to create more jobs , and to help people , to find other work.
But after 4 years , it did not do much!!Unemployment , is still very high in Holland.
And every year , it gets higher , because students , who finished their study or school , cannot find a proper job.
On the other hand , the government , has been cutting ,on the social security allowances.So , when you loose your job , your monthly income , will go down , by a big margin.
And thus , people , don`t have money to spend , on luxury things.
While we should sober up , our money is going to Greece , Italy , and other EU countries , which are in a financial bad situation.
We did everything right , the past 2 years , according to the Brussels EU rules.
And what did they tell us , hey , you guys from Holland , your economy has grown , alittle bit , in those 2 years.
So , you need to pay , an additional amount of money , to the EU committee.This was the same for Great Britain.
While France did not do it`s part , and Italy`s economy did not grow.France doesn`t have to pay the fine (again!!).
And I am not sure , if France will get a money refund.Italy , will have some money refunded.
Just like Germany , because it`s economy , did shrink , the past years.
So , the crisis , is making a big difference , for the EU.Don`t think about it , too lightly.
In case , that you didn`t know.My country , had a back up scenario , to leave the EU and the Euro , some years ago.
I believe , it was at the time , if or when Greece , would be pushed out of the EU.
So , the crisis , is affecting , everyone.And right now , at this moment.
Eric
Ekaterina, 1st of all be sure of what you want and where do you want to develope your psychiatry university degree! And when you know then look at the conditions in that country!
`2nd When it's all OK, learn the language is spoken in that country: Dutch, English, German, Spanish, or which you want, because if you don't speak it fluently you won't have any chance!
And now! C'mon Eric what the hell are you speaking about?
Problems in Netherlands with a very high unemployment? Your percentage of unemployment is a 7%!!!
Here in my country is even worst and you have to know unemployment is 25% and 50% of people under 35 has no job!
Don't say her those bad things! It's ba bad situation everywhere, but i think that in your country is not as worst as you say if you compare your situation with Spain, Greece, Ukraine or Russia!
Eric, I invite you to live and to work in Russia. You'll see the another part of life.
Katerina ,
Well , I am sure , that in some parts of Russia , things are completely different.And also , are being checked , by other standards.
If this is , because the lack of money , or if there are other issues , that may play a part in this , I really don`t know.
I understand , that you want me , to realize , that in my country , things may be better.
But to tell you the truth , I have never been to Russia.Although , at the moment , I try to learn some Russian.
I already know some words , and I can say some short sentences in Russian.But it is not going to help me.If I was to go there , to live and to work.
Yes , with the technology , of the new age , I will be able , to have some conversation , with Google translate , on my smart phone or tablet.
But then you will need an internet connection.
I just want to say , that I am not complaining , about my personal situation.Everything , that I have said , in my previous posts , to you , were only , to describe the real situation , in my country.
And , what or how much , influence , Brussels has ,in dictating , what we in the EU , should or must do!!
Maybe , you have heard , about the strikes , in Belgium , in last December.This is all about , that Brussels , has urged the Belgian government , to start , to re-structure , their national debt.
As you may know , Brussel wants , that every EU member , should have a national debt , of only 3% , of their gross national product.
Holland , had in the past 2 years , something of around 4,7%.By raising taxes , inventing new taxes and making gasoline and petrol , more expensive , our government , succeeded , to comply , to the rules of Brussel.
Our government , also , did cut on their costs , for social security , in the medical sector.They have also cut , on the costs for development aid , to other countries.
In other words , the government , has shifted , some costs , to us , the civilians , from Holland.
Please understand me correctly , I am not complaining.Luckily , my personal situation , is such , that I can still , lead a good life.
And I am still in a good health , so I don`t need , to have medicines , or to go and see the doctor.
But , yes , all the same , I do have additional health insurances.Sometimes I think , why I have them.Because , I don`t need to declare bills , for them.
But , you never know , what can happen ?? Yes ??
I have seen , and heard about , that life in Russia , is getting more difficult.Partly , because of the sanctions.
I was aware , that in certain areas , like in the medical field , working , was a challenge , everyday.
And I am sure , that there are more branches , where working conditions , can be , or must be improved.
And I sincerely hope ,that the modern age , will make it`s way , to these areas.
The news , that we get , over here , from Russia and it`s people , is somewhat coloured.
I am not sure , if it is because of some restrictions.
Also , the correspondents , for the news papers , and for the tv channels , mostly report , from Moscow.
It is clear , that their vieuw , on some issues , is only , to what they can see , or verify.
With such a great and vast country , that Russia is , you need more people , to monitor , the daily life and struggle , of the ordinary people.
To end my post , I want to say , that I have nothing against , the people from Russia.And I really hope , that prosperity , new technology will be part , of their work and the daily life.
As was here on the news , Russians in Moscow , buying Maserattis , of about 150.000 Euros.
Because , it is better , to use the money , instead of leaving it on the bank , these days.
Well , for some prosperity , is already there.Let us hope , that it also will come , for all Russians.
Eric
I am a doctor, I don't know what is debt. I watch TV only with my son, I know a lot of cartoons, but I really don't care what a lie our government shows us (and for you) by mass media. We're on a dating site. It is important for me to understand now at least two things: 1. what are you doing at this site? 2. Should foreigh wife to work? And if she should or must, then in what profession? Sorry my English, I try to study it))
There may be a bit of confusion here.I don`t really understand your : " I am a doctor , I don`t know what is debt " .
This could mean , that you don`t have a debt , or that you don`t understand the English word , debt.
The word debt means , that I or someone else , or a government , has lent money , from another person or a bank.
This also means , that I , must pay back the loan with interest.
Many countries , lend money , from banks or other financial institutions.And , they should pay it back , within the time , that they did agree on , in the contract.
So , for my country , the money , that it owes , to other banks/financers , should not be more , than 3% of the total national income.Brussels rule.
Now to answer your questions."Why I am here" - > I am here , for the same reason , as you.Trying to find a suitable partner.And more specifically , I seek a partner , in Eastern Europe and in the CIS countries.
And just like many of the women here , I also check , on other dating sites.And to partly answer , your second question , I do consider , to relocate , to the country of my future wife.
But , that will depend , on certain criteria , that I don`t know , at this moment , because , I have not found her yet.
Things will become clear , when I know , in what country she lives.And what her wishes for the future are.
I am aware , that it is a big decision , for an EE woman , to leave her home town , family , friends and work.And to begin a new life , in a strange place.
With a man , who she may not know , completely.
Of course , it is the same for the man.He will not know , his new wife , through and through.Living and growing up , in different countries and cultures , has it`s challenges.
Which will make life , in a foreign country ,more disturbing , in the first few months , or years.
And when you start to know , each other better , will you still think , that you 2 are compatible ?
So , yes , many questions , and things to consider.But , he who does not dare , will not win.
Your second question : "Should my foreign wife , have to work?" - > In my current situation , my wife , will not have to work.To say it in other owrds , I will not force her , to find a job.
And , also very important , I will not see her , as a house maid either.
I understand , that the latter , is also a big issue , for some women.In the first place , she will be my wife and friend.
In the second place , she will be the person , who I can trust , and talk with , about all (interesting) topics.And family or relation matters.
In my country , the foreign wife , is not allowed to work or to find a job , unless , she has a temporary , or permanent , permit to stay.She may get , a temporary permit to stay , for 3 or 6 months (I don`t know exactly).Or maybe for 1 year.
And she must have it , evaluated , by the Immigration Service , after this period.When the conditions , for her , or her partner , have changed , she may loose the temporary permit.And she should leave the country then.
This also means , that if she had a jobe , she should quit it.You understand , that employers , are not keen , on these situations.It is also important , that she should speak and understand the native language.
When applying for a job , it is also important , if you understand , what people say.Communication , is important as well.
When she can speak and write English (fluently or moderately), this will also help her chances , in finding a job.
Because , I am thinking , to relocate , to my wife`s country , it is important , that I learn , and understand , as much , about the daily life , and the outlook on life , that these women , in EE and Russia have.
I already , know , many things , about , their mindset , and what , they consider , to be key issues.So , everything , that I can find , on the internet , or from what other sources , that is related , to life in CIS countries and in Russia , is good stuff , for me.
I am realistic enough , to know , that it will only be , just a tiny part , of what life in EE/Russia , holds for it`s people , and more , for the female population.
Understanding , their reason , why they seek , a foreign husband , is also , a major issue , for me.
Reading their advices , to others , and to other women , may give a glimpse , in what their goal is , seen from their cultural and traditional point of vieuw.
I really understand , that it is only , when you really live , in your wife`s country , and you can communicate , in her own language ,that you will see , what a really happy life is her for.
And what life means to her , and her family.Yes , I know , that family is the most important , in their life.They will do anything , to help their family.
I am very aware , of that!!!
So , I may say , that I am in a good position , to find a future wife , in EE.I understand the risks , and the financial hazards, that such an undertaking , may hold.
But only the future , will tell , some day , if I did make the right choice , today.
Eric
I mean I don't care about my country's debt or another reasons of crisis sush as sanctions etc. I work and receive a salary lower than in any other country not because of the debt of my country or because of the crisis. It is a politic of Russia to reduce the population of disables and pensioners. You will be a pensioner for the country of you wife. Do you understand it? You should choose the country and a woman where the governmant take care about their People.
Katerina ,
Now I understand.Here , in Holland , it is not really clear , or well known , what the Russian government , wants to do , for their old and disabled people.
Like I said before , it is a very big and vast country.Our correspondents , cannot tell , about all aspects , of the Russian life.
And , what the politicians , have in mind.It is only , the local people , who must deal , with this every day , who will know , the real intentions , of their government.
We were always told , that life in Russia , is very good.It was good , before the sanctions , which started in March , of the past year.
Prosperity did grow , in the past 15 years.
How many people , really got a better life , we don`t hear about it.And there are no statistics , about this.But let us hope , that there will come a change.
You know , nothing lasts forever.
One day , something will change.And let it be a change , for every individual in Russia.
Yes , I am aware , of the facts , that in some countries , expats , may have a bit more strubbles.
Naturally , I will take this into consideration , when I will make a choice.
Of course , I will hope , that my new wife , will help me in this.
Let`s wait and see.
Good luck to you and much success , with your efforts.
Eric
Hi and sorry for late reply. Yes I do know of people that have finished Medical degree in the university of Moscow and now are working as MD's in Greece. BUT these people have the advantage that they speak both greek and russian. In greece they had to give some exams that were in greek language (obviously) and they were following a year of resodency in hospitals. As i said its different for each EU country
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